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Think they get lumped in as wannabe Icelands but it doesn't feel too justified.

Other than against fellow minnows in Nations League Division D their recent results look worse than Moldova.
They aren't the uber-diddies they used to be. Beat Greece home and away I think 5/6 years ago.
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If we don't beat Moldova, the Faroes and Israel all home and away, cheerio to 2nd place. Those fucking games are must wins, and we should be looking to beat Denmark and Austria at home given our good home form. Austria despite being 2nd seeds are probably the team to beat here. 

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18 minutes ago, bernardblack said:

 


Do we still get to “negotiate” the fixtures?

I recall us doing that and agreeing to playing in the sweltering heat in Macedonia one August afternoon

 

Nah, they stopped the negotiating a few tournaments ago. All automated now. 

That was during Burley’s time in charge. I think Craig Brown was a good negotiator for the games. Generally playing in places like that in late autumn or spring.

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13 minutes ago, Ian38018 said:

It is because we have not worried about the likes of Moldova in the past, that we have been fucked.

 

8 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Indeed... plus our past experiences against Lithuania, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia, Macedonia and Kazakhstan (more than once in several cases) justifies natural caution nevermind Brown and Vogts nightmares in the Faroes.

Basically we've 2 away games that aren't gimmes but if you don't win you don't deserve to qualify or reach playoffs.

Pish. If we are professional about it they should be straightforward wins.

I'd argue that trembling like wee bitches lost us the games noted. Take Kazakhstan for example. There was a list of excuses repeated multiple times that clearly got in the player's heads and the team looked terrified and were roundly pumped. For the game in Macedonia there were tears for ages about the heat and the team put in a timid, shitebag performance.

We were beat well before the games even began in most of those cases. The team was mentally weak and poor management allowed it to happen.

If the team approach the games in a professional manner and go in with confidence, they should be straightforward victories. A bit of belief goes a long way. 

Or they could be scared of a pot 6 team and play like shitebags and deservedly get nothing, a sterling tactic that has seen us qualify for every tournament since France 98...

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1 minute ago, Frank Grimes said:

If the stars align might go to Israel for a laugh 

Would need to be in 2022 though 

This group campaign is all in 2021.

Matchday 1: 24–25 March 2021
Matchday 2: 27–28 March 2021
Matchday 3: 30–31 March 2021
Matchday 4: 1–2 September 2021
Matchday 5: 4–5 September 2021
Matchday 6: 7–8 September 2021
Matchday 7: 8–9 October 2021
Matchday 8: 11–12 October 2021
Matchday 9: 11–13 November 2021
Matchday 10: 14–16 November 2021
Play-offs: 24, 25, 28, 29 March 2022

Although maybe we will get Israel in the next Nations League.

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Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

This group campaign is all in 2021.

Matchday 1: 24–25 March 2021
Matchday 2: 27–28 March 2021
Matchday 3: 30–31 March 2021
Matchday 4: 1–2 September 2021
Matchday 5: 4–5 September 2021
Matchday 6: 7–8 September 2021
Matchday 7: 8–9 October 2021
Matchday 8: 11–12 October 2021
Matchday 9: 11–13 November 2021
Matchday 10: 14–16 November 2021
Play-offs: 24, 25, 28, 29 March 2022

Although maybe we will get Israel in the next Nations League.

Ideally Austria and Denmark away are not in the first three matchdays so we have more chance getting trips over there.

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36 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Just answering on why they're Pot 6. Historically we have a brilliant record against "Moldova, the Faroes and f*cking Israel" of course 🤔

In all seriousness - it's a good draw if we take 16pts/18pts off those below.

We assume of course that Denmark and Austria will take 18 points off those 3 teams, which is probable but not a certainty. It's why it is a good draw -Germany / Belgium / France / England would win all 6 matches easily but not sure if Denmark or Austria will do the same. 

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1 minute ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

This group campaign is all in 2021.

Matchday 1: 24–25 March 2021
Matchday 2: 27–28 March 2021
Matchday 3: 30–31 March 2021
Matchday 4: 1–2 September 2021
Matchday 5: 4–5 September 2021
Matchday 6: 7–8 September 2021
Matchday 7: 8–9 October 2021
Matchday 8: 11–12 October 2021
Matchday 9: 11–13 November 2021
Matchday 10: 14–16 November 2021
Play-offs: 24, 25, 28, 29 March 2022

Although maybe we will get Israel in the next Nations League.

Hopefully it's home games + Moldova away in March then we can all have a massive party in Vienna to celebrate us winning the Euros. 

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4 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

This group campaign is all in 2021.

Matchday 1: 24–25 March 2021
Matchday 2: 27–28 March 2021
Matchday 3: 30–31 March 2021
Matchday 4: 1–2 September 2021
Matchday 5: 4–5 September 2021
Matchday 6: 7–8 September 2021
Matchday 7: 8–9 October 2021
Matchday 8: 11–12 October 2021
Matchday 9: 11–13 November 2021
Matchday 10: 14–16 November 2021
Play-offs: 24, 25, 28, 29 March 2022

Although maybe we will get Israel in the next Nations League.

Maybe? Death, taxes and fucking Israel.

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Just now, Marshmallo said:

Ideally Austria and Denmark away are not in the first three matchdays so we have more chance getting trips over there.

I was thinking the same. September and October would do just fine for away days in Vienna and Copenhagen.

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3 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

This group campaign is all in 2021.

Matchday 1: 24–25 March 2021
Matchday 2: 27–28 March 2021
Matchday 3: 30–31 March 2021
Matchday 4: 1–2 September 2021
Matchday 5: 4–5 September 2021
Matchday 6: 7–8 September 2021
Matchday 7: 8–9 October 2021
Matchday 8: 11–12 October 2021
Matchday 9: 11–13 November 2021
Matchday 10: 14–16 November 2021
Play-offs: 24, 25, 28, 29 March 2022

Although maybe we will get Israel in the next Nations League.

Three Euro group games plus a couple of friendlies and we’ll play 15 matches in 2021... 

Robertson and Marshal are going to end up on over 50 caps by the end of the year.  Dykes will be on 20 or more.

Have we ever had a better time to build a squad with real international experience?

This must be why the Spanish and Germans have players on 120 to 170 caps

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8 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Hot on the heels of our best ever chance to qualify for the euro's, we now have our best ever chance of qualifying for the world cup.

Bit hyperbolic that, we've already qualified for both before.

 

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