The Derry Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 42 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Your not this daft. You are though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: The Charlie Adam sister thing is more than likely a lie. It it distasteful but IMO bring on the distasteful chants at the football, leave homophobia, racism and general bigotry at the door. I mind Dons fans said Morelos ma' was a mattress, and people were losing their shit calling it racist, utter nonsense. It's a wind up, it's the fitba.' When I'm at Dens or Tannadice I'll more than happy sing about Dundee being a shithole, even though I've lived there previously and absolutely love the place. I wouldn't stop to think that any of this is anything like actual abuse. Take things for what they are IMO. Football fans trying to wind up opposition players. A stark difference to blatant and obvious racism. I tend to agree with a lot of that regarding distasteful chants are usually accepted and can be seen as an attempt to wind up players/opposition fans. However… it does start getting quite close to the bone and in some instances I would consider it abusive. Including other people’s family members is verging on the unacceptable in my opinion, but as you say, is nothing in comparison to genuine discrimination. Personally I thought the Morelos’ mother banner was in extremely poor taste, particularly given they used his own language to convey the message. I’m sure Morelos thought so too as he has gone on to often bully Aberdeen since. But it wasn’t on a level with other chants or abuse. The main issue I see with it is that people use football as an excuse to release their anger, and often it does go too far. When people start mocking the dead and stuff like that, while it’s not sectarian or racist it is most definitely unacceptable. Edited August 26, 2021 by AJF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, CCB19035 said: The Charlie Adam sister thing is more than likely a lie. It it distasteful but IMO bring on the distasteful chants at the football, leave homophobia, racism and general bigotry at the door. I mind Dons fans said Morelos ma' was a mattress, and people were losing their shit calling it racist, utter nonsense. It's a wind up, it's the fitba.' When I'm at Dens or Tannadice I'll more than happy sing about Dundee being a shithole, even though I've lived there previously and absolutely love the place. I wouldn't stop to think that any of this is anything like actual abuse. Take things for what they are IMO. Football fans trying to wind up opposition players. A stark difference to blatant and obvious racism. I've heard supporters of my club sing songs/chants about dead family members of two people connected to Hibs. That suits your definition of acceptable, going by this post. I disagree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, CCB19035 said: It it distasteful but IMO bring on the distasteful chants at the football ^^^^ Sings about the Ibrox disaster imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 This thread is evidence that nobody can drive past a car crash without having a wee look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Meldrew said: no, because that isnt factually correct, i found drug abuse very enjoyable for a period of time in my younger days. Junkie, just as bad as the Dundee snowflakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: Hahaaha shut up you fucking fruitloop. Instituonal racism, and societal racism, are problems that permeate throughout society. It stops people getting jobs, it stops people getting loans from banks, it means you can be treated differently by the law, and it means you can have your heritage/nationality/identity questioned whenever someone sees fit. These are societal problems that affect millions of people, so naturally, in understanding this, its vile and shocking to see the Rangers fans do what they did, knowing the connotations that could have. When Boris Johnson made his idiotic comments about women in religious dress, hate crimes against that specific demographic went up. This is not anywhere near being the same thing as a stupid wee ditty about Charlie Adams' sisters pants, the fact he mentioned it immediately after a conversation about racism, shows he doesn't understand racism, and how it works. He's only concerned about a stupid fucking song that should be water off a ducks back to most footballers, and apparently Dundee fans don't get it either, as they are standing right by him. How likely is Charlie Adam to be killed over the fact his sister may/may not have damp pants? At the time the bananas were thrown at Walters, hate crimes were extremely common, therefore that act endangered that individual further. Go and read a fucking book before you come on here talking like a dipshit about that fat ugly c**t Adam and his sisters knickers. End of discussion. Firstly, I'll punch your c**t in ya wee dick if you ever talk to me in that tone again. Secondly, this debate is not about whether worldwide racism is worse than the Charlie Adam chant, it's been about what an individual deems to be offensive to themselves, not about whether football fans themselves decide whether they shall be the arbiters of what's offensive or not. Why should chants about his immediate family be water off a duck's back to Charlie Adam? By that logic Kyogo should just shrug off the Rangers song. Btw, out of interest, are these Rangers fans being charged with this "hate crime"? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dee Man said: Firstly, I'll punch your c**t in ya wee dick if you ever talk to me in that tone again. head clean off. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, gannonball said: head clean off. You're next. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Personally I'm looking forward to visiting Dens later in the season and hearing the range of hymns they now only chant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 How long is it til this c***s mob are relegated again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie67 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Firstly, I'll punch your c**t in ya wee dick if you ever talk to me in that tone again. Secondly, this debate is not about whether worldwide racism is worse than the Charlie Adam chant, it's been about what an individual deems to be offensive to themselves, not about whether football fans themselves decide whether they shall be the arbiters of what's offensive or not. Why should chants about his immediate family be water off a duck's back to Charlie Adam? By that logic Kyogo should just shrug off the Rangers song. Btw, out of interest, are these Rangers fans being charged with this "hate crime"?[emoji3595][emoji3595]..somebody raided his sisters knicker drawer type post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Are the dees partial to a candlelit vigil? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Presumably Dee Man hung his head and wept quietly while his fellow "fans" sang about Alan Main's father. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 It's the first Sportsound Podcast after Dundee play Rangers at Dens in March. A crushing defeat for the Dees sees them rooted to the bottom of the table with very little hope of escaping relegation. Charlie Adam announces that Dundee really needed the points to ensure survival and now people at the club will probably lose their jobs. Rangers also needed them for their title challenge for Celtic and it was good for them that they got them. Dundee fans vehemently defend Charlies comments online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: It's the first Sportsound Podcast after Dundee play Rangers at Dens in March. A crushing defeat for the Dees sees them rooted to the bottom of the table with very little hope of escaping relegation. Charlie Adam announces that Dundee really needed the points to ensure survival and now people at the club will probably lose their jobs. Rangers also needed them for their title challenge for Celtic and it was good for them that they got them. Dundee fans vehemently defend Charlies comments online. Title defence* Good guy, Charlie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, The Derry said: You are though. Reported 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Time we all going to ruel street then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, AJF said: Title defence* Good guy, Charlie. Ah my mistake. See Charlie, that's not too hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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