newcastle broon Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 18 hours ago, Burnieman said: I'm not aware of Hearts B ever requesting a postponement, they played Tranent with a number of players away with Scotland U19's and still won. Celtic seem to get away with it for some reason. Uni teams get off lightly and as you point out, can field pretty weak teams if they're playing pre-term and in holiday periods. Their U20's in the Development Leagues get the first month of the season off due to lack of players. What have B teams brought to the table that have enhanced the league? If B teams want in the pyramid let them start at the very bottom and work their way up like every other team has to do though the general feeling on here is for them to gtf which reading between the lines is understandable. were you not against B teams at one time,what has changed your outlook? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 17 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: What have B teams brought to the table that have enhanced the league? If B teams want in the pyramid let them start at the very bottom and work their way up like every other team has to do though the general feeling on here is for them to gtf which reading between the lines is understandable. were you not against B teams at one time,what has changed your outlook? I have never been against B teams and I think that they have a place in the Pyramid if they want it, just like Stranraer and Stirling Uni reserves in the SoS/EoS. Never agreed to them being parachuted into the LL which was a bit of a joke, and the Conference proposal was just lunacy. It's been badly handled by the SFA/LL, but Scottish football cannot get its act together and get a proper reserve league on the go providing 30+ games a season which would be my preferred solution to this issue but that doesn't appear to be happening, not enough clubs want to commit the money to it, so here we are. At least the B teams bring a support, if you look at the biggest home league crowds over the course of a LL season, the B teams will almost always be in the top three or four attendances for most clubs. They bring a lot more to the table that the likes of Broomhill, Colts, Braves and the Uni's. There is no real objection to B teams per se by the clubs/leagues. The EoS has a long history of accomodating reserve teams and if a reserve team applied for next season who met requirements, they would be admitted. The B teams are here for the next two, probably three seasons. There's breathing space enough for Scottish football to find a solution. Edited February 22 by Burnieman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 30 minutes ago, Halfwit8 said: Cowdenbeath and Gretna abstained. A majority passed it. Said to be 8-7 at the time. There can't be 7 for and 2 abstentions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 20 hours ago, Burnieman said: No more so than Uni teams who's squads are decimated during holiday time. Not that the above is an ideal situation, but it's not like B-teams who get stronger or weaker because of a first team. Also, I don't see a great deal of difference between that with the uni teams and for example Scone Thistle in our league, who due to holidays & a small squad were honking at the start of the season, only to get much stronger by signing loads of players from September or so. We beat them 7-0 away early on in the season which still flattered them while we struggled breaking them down in the home game a few weeks ago before getting a hard-fought 2-0 win. And those games we played against them were no exception, as their results against other teams also show they are basically a different team now. These things happen at our level. Edited February 22 by Marten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 30 minutes ago, Marten said: Not that the above is an ideal situation, but it's not like B-teams who get stronger or weaker because of a first team. By the looks of it neither B team significantly weakens itself due to first team call-ups. Movement from B to first team squad happens but not to any great extent. perhaps one or two players at any given time. Hearts have a couple of B team players regularly involved, Celtic may have one. Uni's can be decimated at certain times of the year, everyone knows that but seem to accept it. It's your pot luck if you get them at their strongest or weakest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfwit8 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: A majority passed it. Said to be 8-7 at the time. There can't be 7 for and 2 abstentions. Sorry, I meant Cowdenbeath voted for B teams and Gretna abstained. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Halfwit8 said: Sorry, I meant Cowdenbeath voted for B teams and Gretna abstained. Gretna didn’t abstain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfwit8 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Cowden Cowboy said: Gretna didn’t abstain Well I was told they did. But if I'm wrong so be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 hours ago, PossilYM said: 7 out of 16? Apologies, Cowdenbeath voted for, and Gretna didn’t vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 44 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Gretna didn’t abstain Any follow up on why your club broke ranks from the other proper teams and voted in favour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Clyde01 said: Any follow up on why your club broke ranks from the other proper teams and voted in favour? Been gone over in detail already -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Clyde01 said: Any follow up on why your club broke ranks from the other proper teams and voted in favour? Good luck getting a straight answer there! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, To B or not B said: Apologies, Cowdenbeath voted for, and Gretna didn’t vote. I except your apology although some on here might think you were spreading fake news in the first instance. Expect the B team (not Colts, only Colts in the LL come from Cumbernauld) story to be quietly dropped until summer then we can have another good laugh at the likes of Cowdenbeath enablers squirming to explain their clubs support of B teams. All Hail the League Cup Gordon who'd a jolly time in Seville supporting the Hoops all those years ago and now is reduced to watching East Fife, usually goes AWOL for a couple of weeks as certain LL clubs embarrass him on the B team altar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 hours ago, PossilYM said: I except your apology although some on here might think you were spreading fake news in the first instance. Expect the B team (not Colts, only Colts in the LL come from Cumbernauld) story to be quietly dropped until summer then we can have another good laugh at the likes of Cowdenbeath enablers squirming to explain their clubs support of B teams. All Hail the League Cup Gordon who'd a jolly time in Seville supporting the Hoops all those years ago and now is reduced to watching East Fife, usually goes AWOL for a couple of weeks as certain LL clubs embarrass him on the B team altar. What prompts this summer resurgence? Cowden didn’t struggle to explain - they explained in quite a bit of detail. Much more detail than any other club as far as I can see. Squirming hasn’t been required just a balanced and thoughtful approach. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 hours ago, Spyro said: Good luck getting a straight answer there! Have seen the straight answer published on here - but I guess you are looking for simplistic and slavish support of your viewpoint rather than a reasoned explanation as already communicated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 14 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Have seen the straight answer published on here - but I guess you are looking for simplistic and slavish support of your viewpoint rather than a reasoned explanation as already communicated All anyone could muster from the responses by you last time was, you were threatened with a national conference league... That no one agreed to, none of the HL wanted to play in and had zero interest from most reserve teams that were mentioned in the proposal. Apart from that, a lot was apparently said in a meeting that we aren't privvy to and aren't getting to hear any of the important details from. Plus a few quid into the league coffers, a photo opportunity and a couple of tops from your big teams to auction off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdenleith Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 minutes ago, Spyro said: Apart from that, a lot was apparently said in a meeting that we aren't privvy to and aren't getting to hear any of the important details from. Plus a few quid into the league coffers, a photo opportunity and a couple of tops from your big teams to auction off There was a full summary in the Cowdenbeath programme after the event, maybe you could track one down if you are so bothered. Get yourself down to Gala tomorrow though for the secret party that the B teams are hosting after the game for Gala and Cowden in particular, you’ll be able to find out all details there. Password needed for entry and all that. Cake and juice and everything promised. Rangers B have taken the huff though and aren’t coming, but have promised to send a signed Michael Beale football for the raffle. Oh no, I’ve said too much, must go, bye for now. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, Spyro said: All anyone could muster from the responses by you last time was, you were threatened with a national conference league... That no one agreed to, none of the HL wanted to play in and had zero interest from most reserve teams that were mentioned in the proposal. Apart from that, a lot was apparently said in a meeting that we aren't privvy to and aren't getting to hear any of the important details from. Plus a few quid into the league coffers, a photo opportunity and a couple of tops from your big teams to auction off No point arguing really. Cowdenbeath were in the wrong with the vote. Their board's explanation didn't make any sense and didn't provide any valid reason for the vote. But their fans will believe anything they come up with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 49 minutes ago, Spyro said: All anyone could muster from the responses by you last time was, you were threatened with a national conference league... That no one agreed to, none of the HL wanted to play in and had zero interest from most reserve teams that were mentioned in the proposal. Apart from that, a lot was apparently said in a meeting that we aren't privvy to and aren't getting to hear any of the important details from. Plus a few quid into the league coffers, a photo opportunity and a couple of tops from your big teams to auction off The Conference League wasn’t the last time - try and keep up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 36 minutes ago, Marten said: No point arguing really. Cowdenbeath were in the wrong with the vote. Their board's explanation didn't make any sense and didn't provide any valid reason for the vote. But their fans will believe anything they come up with. No point arguing with folks like you obviously with your Trumpian sense of reality -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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