Tory Lies, Corruption and Hypocrisy- Add Them Here

[BFTD]

12 minutes ago, carpetmonster said:

They’ll nod back to it by calling the act the UK Cull Homeless Ratification. 

I prefer the UK Compassionate Homeless Response.

"Cull" is just so...Reichy.

[CarrbridgeSaintee]

Maybe instead of cracking down on begging, they should create policies that reduce it?

Those beggars they see no problem with stigmatising are human beings like the rest of us, and if given employment opportunities, housing and practical support could do just as well as anyone else.

It’s not just a case of increasing benefits either, but having a system where every single person can have a sense of purpose and worth.

Is it possible?  Of course it is, but it involves radical ideas and thinking outside the box.  I just don’t see it happening with our current crop of politicians, Tory or otherwise.

[tamthebam]

[aDONisSheep]

23 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

Maybe instead of cracking down on begging, they should create policies that reduce it?

Those beggars they see no problem with stigmatising are human beings like the rest of us, and if given employment opportunities, housing and practical support could do just as well as anyone else.

It’s not just a case of increasing benefits either, but having a system where every single person can have a sense of purpose and worth.

Is it possible?  Of course it is, but it involves radical ideas and thinking outside the box.  I just don’t see it happening with our current crop of politicians, Tory or otherwise.

Add the current Sir Kier's 'Tory-light' Labour Party to those sentiments and you're bang-on.

 

[carpetmonster]

Nothing like starting off your Sunday morning by openly calling for Kristallnacht

 

 

[Billy Jean King]

7 minutes ago, carpetmonster said:

Nothing like starting off your Sunday morning by openly calling for Kristallnacht

 

 

Perfectly normal though that this current Tory administration would have an out and out racist as home secretary. Probably the singular most evil politician I can remember in my lifetime. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

19 minutes ago, carpetmonster said:

Nothing like starting off your Sunday morning by openly calling for Kristallnacht

 

 

Dog whistle politics of the worst sort.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

She is a disgusting piece of shit.

[oldbitterandgrumpy]

27 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Dog whistle politics of the worst sort.

The populist masses that respond to that shit have no idea what ‘dog whistling’ means. To them it makes perfect sense. 

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

If that’s true WTF have these c***s been doing about it for the last 13 years? It’s a confession of dereliction of duty.

Or on the other hand now that everything else has failed it’s time for the Tommy Yaxley Robinson Whateverhisnameis playbook before the election. Muslamic Ray Guns are back on the agenda.
 

 

[doulikefish]

Just now, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

If that’s true WTF have these c***s been doing about it for the last 13 years? It’s a confession of dereliction of duty.

Or on the other hand now that everything else has failed it’s time for the Tommy Yaxley Robinson Whateverhisnameis playbook before the election. Muslamic Ray Guns are back on the agenda.
 

 

The next election is going to be about "stop the boats" the press will make sure of that

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

11 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

The next election is going to be about "stop the boats" the press will make sure of that

I’m sure the people will be constantly reminded that this government’s Brexit policies have directly led to the problem.

[Leith Green]

57 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Dog whistle politics of the worst sort.

I am the most sandal wearing, bearded woke lefty I know.........but there's an kernel of truth in what she says (I know, I feel disgusted saying that).

Asian gangs in Bradford etc have targeted vulnerable young white girls for some time in order to use them in the local sex trade.

......... however, white gangsters have been doing it for years which also needs acknowledgement. It's hardly confined to Pakistani gangs !

She is definitely playing to the gammons with this tho.

[StellarHibee]

Tories 2023: "Dark skinned rape gangs are grooming young white girls."
Labour 2023: "Everybody should be groomed equally, regardless of race, colour or creed".

[coprolite]

11 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

I am the most sandal wearing, bearded woke lefty I know.........but there's an kernel of truth in what she says (I know, I feel disgusted saying that).

Asian gangs in Bradford etc have targeted vulnerable young white girls for some time in order to use them in the local sex trade.

......... however, white gangsters have been doing it for years which also needs acknowledgement. It's hardly confined to Pakistani gangs !

She is definitely playing to the gammons with this tho.

The Home Office report in 2020 concluded that most members of "grooming gangs" were white men.

Obviously because of the relative size of populations it's still possible for some ethnic groups to be more likely to be part of one and still be a minority of the offenders. I would assume (maybe cynically) that the government was looking for such a link and if they could have found it they would have. 

If i remember correctly though there were specific failings in Rotherham with people not investigating properly due to cultural sensitivity or something. 

That was a while ago and firmly within the government's responsibility to sort out. 

I agree that there is some truth, but it's presented disingenuously as a racial issue when in fact it was an institutional issue, and if it's still a problem, it's a problem because the government didn't give enough of a shit about poor girls to do anything. 

[Leith Green]

11 minutes ago, coprolite said:

it's a problem because the government didn't give enough of a shit about poor girls to do anything. 

Agree with all of that, and this is the key statement.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

30 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

I am the most sandal wearing, bearded woke lefty I know.........but there's an kernel of truth in what she says (I know, I feel disgusted saying that).

Asian gangs in Bradford etc have targeted vulnerable young white girls for some time in order to use them in the local sex trade.

......... however, white gangsters have been doing it for years which also needs acknowledgement. It's hardly confined to Pakistani gangs !

She is definitely playing to the gammons with this tho.

It's playing to a nasty stereotype that the far right have been using for ages.

The issue with grooming gangs isn't one of race but one of males controlling and abusing vulnerable young women.

By focusing on the stereotype of" grooming gangs are Asian" she is deliberately playing on the racialist tendencies of the gammony working classes.

[welshbairn]

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8349293/Attorney-General-Suella-Braverman-religious-sect-mired-sex-abuse-scandal.html

[Granny Danger]

1 hour ago, coprolite said:

The Home Office report in 2020 concluded that most members of "grooming gangs" were white men.

Obviously because of the relative size of populations it's still possible for some ethnic groups to be more likely to be part of one and still be a minority of the offenders. I would assume (maybe cynically) that the government was looking for such a link and if they could have found it they would have. 

If i remember correctly though there were specific failings in Rotherham with people not investigating properly due to cultural sensitivity or something. 

That was a while ago and firmly within the government's responsibility to sort out. 

I agree that there is some truth, but it's presented disingenuously as a racial issue when in fact it was an institutional issue, and if it's still a problem, it's a problem because the government didn't give enough of a shit about poor girls to do anything. 

The 2020 Home Office report was pretty vague on the ethnicity issue, largely due to the data available.  The MSM reporting of the report was pretty selective.

 

[ICTJohnboy]

Oh when will they ever learn?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/02/suella-braverman-denies-brexit-to-blame-for-dover-queues-of-14-hours