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2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Just remembering that from 1998 to 2012 Leckie called the SPL (as the top flight was called then) the EssPeeEll in his columns.  Eventually the pressure told.  The man is a hero.

Was that him?  I vaguely remember a journalist doing this but thought it was maybe Traynor or Chuckles Young.  Very tragic.

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Just now, throbber said:

That article is actually insulting to the people of Ukraine who’s owns president has stayed in the capital to fight off this awful invasion and become a global icon. Imagine actually thinking it was a good idea to publish such a load of patronising nonsense. Who even is Bill Leckie?

A journalist who was relevant about 25 years ago.

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13 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Can’t wait for the Ukraine v Yemen World Cup final after everyone decides to do the right thing. Should be a cracker. 

Tough on Afghanistan, if only this had been brought in sooner they'd have won the last 4 world cups.

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Thread about the Russian army’s difficulties 

Talks are beginning, really hope they succeed and there is a ceasefire. The final tweets of that thread offer a plausible and frightening model of escalation. The ‘humanitarian corridor’ talk today mirrors actions in Chechnya.

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"As Moscow’s economy appears to be going into meltdown, all European airspace is closed to Russian airlines, sanctions are proliferating, and Russian oligarchs are moving their superyachts out the harm’s way, it’s worth recalling a key theory of how authoritarian leaders hold on to power.

This theory – known as “coup-proofing” – was popularised by Edward Luttwak in his book Coup D’Etat: A Practical Handbook.

The essence of Luttwak’s argument is that non-democratic leaders require other tools than simply coercion to coup-proof their regimes. Crucially that includes securing broader support among financial, political and security elites by sharing the spoils and prestige.

In the Russian context it’s always been clear that there are enormous financial benefits to supporting Putin for a small circle. But the benefits that a lot of other individuals lower down the food chain have enjoyed are now seriously under threat."

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1 minute ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said:

You'd imagine that there's going to have to be a full reconfiguration of Russia's military if Putin gets out the other side of this. Back of a fag packet stuff here.

They've got a lot of tanks and APCs to replace for a start.

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56 minutes ago, Thorongil said:

Does anyone here remember an episode of Wacaday when Timmy Mallet was in Red Square with his mallet? He was going around shout Whack-A-Czar and hitting things with the mallet. 
I think the feature was called Whack to the USSR.

I was a big fan of Mallet's Mallet and this sounds great. 

He should be drafted in to facilitate the peace talks. 

"look at each other and say" "bleurgh" "

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Wonder what each side's 'give' will be in this negotiation. 

Hopefully Russia's is a little more than 'we won't completely annihilate you.'

Wonder if it's still merely down to the status of the current breakaway republics in the Donbass (and indeed Crimea), or does it extend somewhat further than that now?  Would Ukraine accept greater autonomy or even recognise their independence in order to keep the majority of their country intact and avoid mass casualties and regime change? 

 

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The parents WhatsApp group at my son's nursery is this morning arranging collecitons of food and sanitary products to be collected at the Ukrainian Club in Edinburgh for delivery to Poland.  They have arranged a number of trucks to take them.

Piecebox cafe in Polwarth taking Baby milk, nappies, blankets and toiletries.

Tattu in West Register Street taking food.

Edinburgh Ukrainian club also taking donations

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36 minutes ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said:

You'd imagine that there's going to have to be a full reconfiguration of Russia's military if Putin gets out the other side of this. Back of a fag packet stuff here.

It's pretty remarkable.  There are people who have recordings of their comms on those handsets - they are done on public channels, they are being transcribed now for release.

Russia's military was extensively reformed in the 2000s, including after the Georgian War in 2008, where they had a number of issues.  They have generally been assessed as being much improved but there are obviously failings.  One point might be that the preparation for the war from Russia has been poor, maybe they expected Ukraine to make significant concessions and had just moved troops there without intending to attack, only to recalibrate late in the day.

That doesn't explain why they are using public walkie talkies though, right enough.

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