bennett Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Sending a message to Putin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Ah yes. The kind of person who gets on the bus and starts talking about gods, and expresses surprise when all the other passengers get off at the same stop. Sounds like a top tip to get a bit of space on the bus, or just rid them of those weirdos who wear garments featuring wolves. Shall bear in mind, thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said: Sounds like a top tip to get a bit of space on the bus, or just rid them of those weirdos who wear garments featuring wolves. Shall bear in mind, thanks. Either that or you will find yourself sitting beside a true believer who regards you as their new best friend. Bit risky I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 In other news, in Inverness, I spotted that the old Christian bookshop on Castle Street is now a Whisky Shop. No hope for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, bennett said: Sending a message to Putin? That's a very interesting 'something' on the back of the US sub. Almost looks like a deep sea submersible. Has anything sunk recently that the Americans might want a look at? <whistle> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fullerene said: In other news, in Inverness, I spotted that the old Christian bookshop on Castle Street is now a Whisky Shop. No hope for us. How odd. When I see former ecclesiastical buildings being converted to other uses, I'm usually quite pleased. At least those working in a whisky shop aren't associated with an imaginary product... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: That's a very interesting 'something' on the back of the US sub. Almost looks like a deep sea submersible. Has anything sunk recently that the Americans might want a look at? <whistle> It's for manganese nodules, m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Newbornbairn said: That's a very interesting 'something' on the back of the US sub. Almost looks like a deep sea submersible. Has anything sunk recently that the Americans might want a look at? <whistle> I thought it was for special forces to exit and enter the sub underwater but not 100% sure. Edited April 21, 2022 by bennett 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, bennett said: I thought it was for special forces to exit and enter the sub underwater but not 100% sure. Is it not a rescue mini sub again that can be entered from inside and deployed.I think that it's shaped like that so it fits any subs hatch and the skirt at the bottom means it seals around the hatch,water gets pumped out and anybody trapped can escape as in the film the Hunt for Red October? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, bennett said: I thought it was for special forces to exit and enter the sub underwater but not 100% sure. The 'Lockout Trunk' is entirely inside the main hull of the sub. The thing on the back is where the SEAL's store their UV's and bulky gear. You can fit more guys in the trunk if they aren't lugging all that stuff with them. They flood the trunk until water pressure is equalised, the SEAL's then just swim out through a hatch and can open the store to retrieve their delivery vehicles. Some of the subs also have a store compartment in the sail that the divers can access from the outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 21:00, beefybake said: .....You hardly need to search too far on the internet to find the stories of massacres carried out by the British Army in Malaya in the 1950's. Little reference, is said about the fact that the officer/commanding officer ranks of outfits like 3 Para murdering 13 innocent civilians in Ireland in 1972.... Aden would be more relevant by that point but it's a joke to try to compare how the British Army behaved in places like that to what was happening on home turf in NI. People only seem to want to remember the monumental cockup on command and control that was Bloody Sunday nowadays and forget how Republican no-go areas were tolerated by the British Army from 1969 until Operation Motorman in 1972. Things went a wee bit differently from that where the handling of something like the Mau Mau insurgency was concerned. Think people are beginning to lose sight of what was so alarming about this invasion at the outset though. Putin basically decided unilaterally that Ukraine shouldn't even exist as a sovereign state and decided to completely disrupt the prevailing international order by doing something about it. That was late 1930s level stuff with the only significant difference being that Hitler knew how to pull off a successful blitzkrieg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 08:23, Detournement said: I think the 8 year war in Donbass, persecution of Russian speakers, American funded military biolabs, the increasingly Nazi character of the Ukranian state, the refusal to implement the Minsk agreements and the lack of progress in security negotiations justify the war. It's similar to Vietnam invading Cambodia in 1978. I think most people saw the Vietnamese invasion of Pol Pot's Cambodia, and the Tanzanian invasion of Amin's Uganda, as necessary and justified instances of 'regime change'. The general view was that both men were dangerous and seriously unstable, and who should be removed by any means necessary. Your analogy would only work if Ukraine had invaded Russia to remove the dangerously unstable Putin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Aden would be more relevant by that point but it's a joke to try to compare how the British Army behaved in places like that to what was happening on home turf in NI. People only seem to want to remember the monumental cockup on command and control that was Bloody Sunday nowadays and forget how Republican no-go areas were tolerated by the British Army from 1969 until Operation Motorman in 1972. Things went a wee bit differently from that where the handling of something like the Mau Mau insurgency was concerned. Think people are beginning to lose sight of what was so alarming about this invasion at the outset though. Putin basically decided unilaterally that Ukraine shouldn't even exist as a sovereign state and decided to completely disrupt the prevailing international order by doing something about it. That was late 1930s level stuff with the only significant difference being that Hitler knew how to pull off a successful blitzkrieg. Putin is an old style Soviet. He thought Ukraine 2022 would be like Hungary 1956 or Czechosolvakia 1968. The Kremlin decides how things need to be and the rest of the world just has to suck it up. Not sure he has understood how the world has changed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: I think most people saw the Vietnamese invasion of Pol Pot's Cambodia, and the Tanzanian invasion of Amin's Uganda, as necessary and justified instances of 'regime change'. Erm the Americans and Chinese didn't; they fucking backed the Khmer Rouge as a noble counterweight to the 'Soviet' regime in Vietnam. This regime change mantra was simply not how international relations operated at any point prior to the 1990s. And even since then, the entirely selective application of it needs little elaboration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 12:18, Detournement said: 1300 British troops are fighting illegally in Iraq and Syria as part of Operation Shader. Nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Grant228 said: Nope. This is most odd. I asked Detournament a question and received no response. You have directly contradicted him, and again no response. Time for a search party? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Just now, Salt n Vinegar said: Time for a search party? 6 hours ago, Grant228 said: Nope. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Quote "Control over the south of Ukraine is another way out to Transnistria, where there are also facts of oppression of the Russian-speaking population," Minnekaev said. Transnistria that is run by Russian speakers and has Russian troops permanently stationed? https://www.interfax.ru/world/837353 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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