Darvel FC Thread

[GIRUU]

1 minute ago, rhubarb1974 said:

I called the darvel cash trouble before it was public.  
 

I called jg stepping down before it was public.  
 

I called the players that were sold before there was talk of it.  
 

I pointed out the no need for tickets when Darvel were adamant they were right.  
 

And plenty more 

[GIRUU]

Just now, GIRUU said:

Still not seeing the cash trouble you keep talking about. You haven’t proved anything except your own inadequacies.

[GIRUU]

3 minutes ago, rhubarb1974 said:

I pointed out the no need for tickets when Darvel were adamant they were right.  
 

Must be a different rhubarb that said well if only 1200 capacity then it should be a sell out so tickets. Where is that emoji for fanny . . .

[rhubarb1974]

1 minute ago, GIRUU said:

Still not seeing the cash trouble you keep talking about. You haven’t proved anything except your own inadequacies.

The club literally put a statement out about money issues/budget over spends.  
 

remember we were self sufficient? 
 

so if self sufficient, we’re we poorly run? 

[andy25]

2 minutes ago, GIRUU said:

Still not seeing the cash trouble you keep talking about. You haven’t proved anything except your own inadequacies.

 

1 minute ago, GIRUU said:

Must be a different rhubarb that said well if only 1200 capacity then it should be a sell out so tickets. Where is that emoji for fanny . . .

 

Just now, rhubarb1974 said:

The club literally put a statement out about money issues/budget over spends.  
 

remember we were self sufficient? 
 

so if self sufficient, we’re we poorly run? 

Would i be wrong in thinking that GIRUU is John Gall?

[rhubarb1974]

1 minute ago, GIRUU said:

Must be a different rhubarb that said well if only 1200 capacity then it should be a sell out so tickets. Where is that emoji for fanny . . .

Well see what the capacity is.  You have already have to admit that the club was wrong over the ticket situation. 

[rhubarb1974]

Just now, andy25 said:

 

 

Would i be wrong in thinking that GIRUU is John Gall?

Yes it is Frank Hill the new main man! JG is desperate to wash his hands of the club.  It’s drained his business cash reserves which have plummeted.  

[GIRUU]

12 minutes ago, andy25 said:

 

 

Would i be wrong in thinking that GIRUU is John Gall?

Maybe Rhuby and me are both the same person. Fight club????

[GIRUU]

13 minutes ago, rhubarb1974 said:

Yes it is Frank Hill the new main man! JG is desperate to wash his hands of the club.  It’s drained his business cash reserves which have plummeted.  

[rhubarb1974]

Just now, GIRUU said:

Public record on companies house 

[andy25]

14 minutes ago, rhubarb1974 said:

Yes it is Frank Hill the new main man! JG is desperate to wash his hands of the club.  It’s drained his business cash reserves which have plummeted.  

Looking at Frank Hills business dealings it dosent bode well for Darvel....

[ClubFan87]

2 hours ago, rhubarb1974 said:

Why would it not be a title decider? 
 

there is no applications to council for temporary expansion of the capacity.  
 

what does frank hill know about football or running a club or how the league and governing bodies run? We have been found out for our lack of experience in the club committee. 
 

i would be happy to help out with the club however as mentioned before unless the club is truely open to all then I won’t offer help.  You can’t have a committee of nodding dogs which we currently have.  There needs to be weekly meetings people with different opinions and experiences all debating different issues and the end of the meeting the votes get accepted and move on together.  
 

how many tickets has he told talbot they are getting have they made contact with talbot.  They have put out clear instructions we have still to make it clear.  

I explained in the post previously why it wasn’t a title decider and I stand by that. I will explain it again since you must find it hard to read. There is a lot of twists and turns left for all clubs in contention for the title. All of the clubs in conte For the title will drop points. So it was not a title decider. 

 

There must be applications to the council to increase capacity as we done it against Aberdeen and Falkirk? Or did I just imagine that we temporarily expanded the capacity? 
 

I cannot answer that, I do not personally know Frank, but I’m sure he’s more of an idea on these things than you hense the reason he is in the position he is. To slate him and say he’s useless is only your irrelevant opinion. He cannot possibly be judged on anything that has happened until now. 
 

I do not know how many tickets he has told Talbot they can get, and honestly don’t really see the issue and I honestly don’t really care how many they get. As long as the club gets cash through the door I do not care. 
 

You are concerning yourself with things that are well above your level of intelligence, quit while your ahead you look like an idiot. 

[ClubFan87]

2 hours ago, rhubarb1974 said:

  Come back with facts.  Confirm to me the official capacity of the ground.  
 

the committee are John’s yes men there isn’t one that is there that isn’t a puppet.  
 

the club were quick enough to put up tickets for sale however very slow in coming out and clarifying what’s happening.  No concessions were offered to Talbot, again against the guidelines of the SJFA.  How stupid can we make ourselves look.  
 

Frank Hill is a fall guy for JG, JG walks away and the Frank Hill gets the blame of everything that JG has destroyed in his ego trip.  Going from one complete clown to a clueless clown. No experience in football at all.  
 

I hope I am wrong as I want the club to succeed.  

What exactly has been destroyed? Your a drama queen with a fishing rod

[rhubarb1974]

2 minutes ago, ClubFan87 said:

I explained in the post previously why it wasn’t a title decider and I stand by that. I will explain it again since you must find it hard to read. There is a lot of twists and turns left for all clubs in contention for the title. All of the clubs in conte For the title will drop points. So it was not a title decider. 

 

There must be applications to the council to increase capacity as we done it against Aberdeen and Falkirk? Or did I just imagine that we temporarily expanded the capacity? 
 

I cannot answer that, I do not personally know Frank, but I’m sure he’s more of an idea on these things than you hense the reason he is in the position he is. To slate him and say he’s useless is only your irrelevant opinion. He cannot possibly be judged on anything that has happened until now. 
 

I do not know how many tickets he has told Talbot they can get, and honestly don’t really see the issue and I honestly don’t really care how many they get. As long as the club gets cash through the door I do not care. 
 

You are concerning yourself with things that are well above your level of intelligence, quit while you’re ahead you look like an idiot. 

I think a win on Saturday would have put us in the driving seat.  
 

I stated there is no current application into the licensing board at East Ayrshire for an extension of capacity at recreation park. The club had to apply for this for the Aberdeen/Falkirk game.  This was issued for two fixed dates and with temporary measures in place.  This was not a permanent increase as the club failed to adhere to the criteria of permanent infrastructure improvements needed, hence the council have placed the limit back on the club.   
 

Frank has never been involved in this sort of work before.  He has zero experience or knowledge of working procedures. He is a convenient person for JG to say someone new is in place.  
 

I have more knowledge than most hence why nearly everything I have said so far has came true, there is still time for the rest to come out.  

[BigBo10]

7 hours ago, ClubFan87 said:

I don’t think there was much in the game apart from Beith were more clinical when it counted and I do know that’s all that counts. We missed a good few chances. To be honest I think yesterday’s game would have got football stopped, very hard surface to play any sort of slick passing football on. Horrible game to watch. 
 

What is it that makes Frank Hill clueless? Apart from the ticketing issue, I don’t see any big decisions that he will have had to make yet that could render the guy useless. Give him a chance, but he won’t get a chance from you lot because he is not one of the ‘old guard’.  I doubt very much he’s giving Talbot 1000 tickets, again the Chinese whispers are in full flow. When the Facebook post states that we had sold 400 tickets in the first week, mathematically Talbot cannot then get 1000 tickets if the capacity is 1200. Instead of running on here why don’t you use your brain and take in information from the club instead of someone telling you a lot of rubbish. 
 

You’re at it what would the SJFA & WOSFL punish us for exactly? I do agree I don’t think the video of the ‘hand ball’ should have been put up but it hasn’t called out a referee or any official for that matter. 
 

Im pretty sure JG has a life outwith Darvel and just like anyone else can go and watch whatever football he pleases. I’m sure I saw on social media he took his grandson to Aberdeen, are we being that petty now you are grudging the man time with his family? It doesn’t surprise me that you stoop that low. 

Not sure we were at the same game yesterday. The one I watched was a good spectacle of a game. Lots of chances, some great defending and saves from both keepers and two opposing styles. Beith can play but yesterday went back to front because their two strikers gave Darvel water on the head all day. Darvel at times passed the ball four or five times to end up back where they started then changed and put the ball into the box repeatedly putting Beith on the back foot. Beith deserved the win but it was a good game to watch. 

[ClubFan87]

1 hour ago, rhubarb1974 said:

I think a win on Saturday would have put us in the driving seat.  
 

I stated there is no current application into the licensing board at East Ayrshire for an extension of capacity at recreation park. The club had to apply for this for the Aberdeen/Falkirk game.  This was issued for two fixed dates and with temporary measures in place.  This was not a permanent increase as the club failed to adhere to the criteria of permanent infrastructure improvements needed, hence the council have placed the limit back on the club.   
 

Frank has never been involved in this sort of work before.  He has zero experience or knowledge of working procedures. He is a convenient person for JG to say someone new is in place.  
 

I have more knowledge than most hence why nearly everything I have said so far has came true, there is still time for the rest to come out.  

It definitely wouldn’t have put us in the driving seat, it would have helped yes but we will still drop points from now until the end of the season. So maybe in your wee bubble it was a title decider but it definitely was not. 
 

Again you don’t know if there is any sort of application to the council for an extension of capacity because you are not involved at the club you do not know these things you are talking about. I know it was temporary for the Aberdeen and Falkirk game. 
 

You said good few posts ago that you did not know Frank, didn’t know his involvement with football clubs etc but now how can you comment on what kind of work/ knowledge of a football club he has. Again you have no idea. You’re slating a man that you do not even know, all because he doesn’t fit into the bubble of the ‘old guard’ and you lot are still not welcome. Sour grapes is all it is
 

 

[ClubFan87]

3 hours ago, KirkyRobRoy said:

No one would believe a word of what you say anyway Rhubarb, so fill your boots

Jeez, Darvel must love having "fans" like you....  

Unfortunately these kind of bitter people do more harm than good to the club and we all end up tarred with the same brush

[FHill]

Let’s get it straight from the horses mouth considering the amount of nonsense Rhubarb1974 has been saying about me and the club.

I'm a hospitality season ticket holder. Nothing more nothing less. 
I offered my services free of charge when the previous commercial manager left to try and look after the finances. That is my job, I’m a forensic specialist. I have been at the start of many businesses over the year and have played a small part in helping them become multi million pound businesses. There is no debt at the club despite what you say and there never will be while I am helping. I will be away in the summer in any case because of you and your tirades against me and the club.

I helped negotiate a community transfer of the club from Brownings to a community interest club. Despite what crap you say there is not and will not be a single owner. John has been instrumental with me in making this happen and I have spent the past 3 months almost full time at no cost to help the club by reviewing the finances, setting up the new community interest company, preparing and costing budgets for the next three years and preparing for a full and transparent AGM with the members. As you are not a season ticket holder you would not know. This work includes one of the largest budgets of teams in our league. But I can report that despite what Rhubarb1974 says, there are no brown envelopes and no player on stupid wages. My goodness the players leave everything out on the pitch and they should rightly take all the credit that’s coming their way. I am only helping the club to help them.

There are no ulterior motives. I know you’ll hate that Rhubarb1974. I have spent the last few months making sure sure the club is on a strong financial footing, and preparing for the future, despite what you think. There is no debt and no funny business. 

The club does not have a capacity of 1200. That is a lie from you Rhubarb1974. I have seen the documents and have been involved in the discussions.

The current committee members that I have dealt with are not yes men, but some of the most committed people I have seen, and they do not want any credit for what they do. As much as I’m down there, they are. I’ve fixed toilets, I’ve cleaned, I’ve done supply runs, I’ve done turnstiles. Even when I’ve paid for my hospitality for the season I still do all this to help. The others and the volunteers do the same. Not for credit and not for glory. For the club. They work and they pay for their tickets even though they don’t always see the games.

I open and close many businesses for my clients as that is the business I am in. No secret agenda there. But thanks for pointing that out.

I have been involved in junior football for over 30 years, not Darvel, but elsewhere in the county. I have also worked for Kilmarnock Football Club.

There was a meeting with the SJFA on Wednesday as you were told Rhubarb1974 but to say there has been no communication with anyone is ridiculous and untrue. There were 3 clubs at that meeting and every single one of us raised concerns with the SJFA. They are still to come back to the clubs but in particular Darvel but because they have not responded as of yet, I cannot comment any further. But if you believe sticking up for your club is wrong then so be it. Any points we raised were within the guidebook and part of the due process. I know all the processes and procedures I need and don’t shy away from that but if something is not right I will call it out. I will never back away from something if it is wrong and I can help change it for the better. I raised issues with the SJFA which I think were justified and in line with the green book on spectator safety in which I raised concerns that were being ignored. If something happens at a game and an incident occurs that I could have prevented then I would struggle to deal with that. But once it is all resolved I will make sure everyone knows what went on but it’s not what you have said, or anyone else has said by the way. And I mean anyone else for the avoidance of doubt but that’s all I can say for now.

I would never name, blame or attempt to embarrass anyone in here like you do. If you had any shame, you should be ashamed.  Whether you like John or not is irrelevant, the same as with me. We don’t care. But see when you bring family into it that’s different. That should never happen. End of. You crossed the line there by pretty much putting my personal details online. Trust me, I’ll be taking that further.

I have also done my own investigations into comments and posts made in the past and while I was not there, the stories about this and that are just stories and when you actually look deeper you realise the facts are not what is being said.
Same with John, if you saw what he puts up with for doing what he does, Rhubarb1974 you would not have done that much for other people. When you see things like paying for mobility aids for people, covering funeral costs personally, helping people when they need it most, and you still want to give him shit, that is wrong. I didn’t know him 6 months ago and I don’t know him that well now but it’s the little things that make a man.

We all have our faults, and I’m not a yes man (nobody has given john a harder time than me over the past few months), but I respect him. Just like I respect everyone that works there for the club. I saw it 30 years ago elsewhere and I see it in Darvel now. That’s why I got involved, just like the rest, not for thanks, but because I could.

I have no gripes with other clubs but I will stick up for Darvel. But everyone I have met has been fair with me so I have nothing to complain about. Every visiting team has went away thanking us for our hospitality and we’ve made some good friends along the way.

Hopefully you will get your pathetic attempt to get rid of John and myself. We know the full story regardless of any rubbish you want to throw. Maybe you know stuff, maybe you don’t. But you have proved that you hate people enough to hate your own club. That is so sad.  

I think I’ve went through most of your points but there will obviously be some that I have missed. You can have a go at me if you wish. But for simplicity I can confirm the following as facts.

There are no cash problems.
There are no debts.
There are no stupid wages.
In the summer the club will be member owned with a voted in committee by those members and full transparency.
There never has been any restriction to 1200 capacity.
You may think we make mistakes, and maybe we do, but the facts are as they are and I am happy with my contribution in the past few months as I was all those years ago. 

But as you say, I know nothing and have never been involved in football.  I do and I have. You just don’t know me as well as you think. I have no interest in carrying this on but if you keep posting my name and personal details and potentially cause issues for my family we will have a discussion on it face to face. That I CAN guarantee.
 

I will keep my head down trying to do my best for the club. I will hand it over to people better than me in the summer, voted into a committee in accordance with the constitution. Who knows maybe I could have helped more but not when people like you say the stuff you do. It’s not for me.

What will you be doing? Still sniping from the sidelines from what I’ve been reading. 

Meanwhile the club will make official statements as and when the club decides, and when all information and responses have been received, and not because you have thrown a tantrum. 




 

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

That is what’s known in the industry as a ‘Telt’. 
 

[funky monkey]

Is it reasonable to think there are no players on 'stupid money' at Darvel?