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Richey Edwards

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13 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yeh good point, i just thought maybe they saw a mass at the bladder when in looking at the prostate but that makes sense. 

Yep, the stuff they find in screening is pretty incredible, the beatson is an incredible place, how they can treat some cancers is incredible, my old man given 6-8 months october 2022 saved by a guy using radiography to send a tiny bit of chemo through his veins to cut the blood supply to a liver tumour, how they can do these things is beyond amazing. 

Really? What a load of faffing about.  Makes you wonder why folk bother with all the medicine stuff.  The country could save a fortune by just sticking to the tried and tested approaches of prayer and homeopathy.

What? The King is having normal medical interventions as well?  No, that can't be right surely! Damn the media and their false reporting!

(For the hard of thinking/royalists, my tongue is very firmly in my cheek.  I have a relative undergoing treatment at the Beatson and I know of the amazing work they do there.)

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1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yeh good point, i just thought maybe they saw a mass at the bladder when in looking at the prostate but that makes sense

Yep, the stuff they find in screening is pretty incredible, the beatson is an incredible place, how they can treat some cancers is incredible, my old man given 6-8 months october 2022 saved by a guy using radiography to send a tiny bit of chemo through his veins to cut the blood supply to a liver tumour, how they can do these things is beyond amazing. 

As someone who has undergone 2 cancer operations in the last couple of years or so, I'm certainly not having a go at the NHS, they do incredible work. However based on my experience, and those I've shared cancer wards with, I'd imagine the frequency of NHS patients going from an anomaly being spotted to non-surgical treatment commencing within a 2-week period would be pretty low.

If, post-treatment, Charles could see his way to diverting his state funding to the kind of cancer research that may end up extending his time on the throne, that'd be swell.

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1 hour ago, GNU_Linux said:

Reading books is for fucking nerds

 

1 hour ago, Brother Blades said:

^^^ never fucked a nerd. 

Not while reading a book, anyway.

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Chucky has had a half decent career as a night watchman, although he was stuck in the dressing room padded up for years waiting for the Geoffrey Boycott of the World Royals test 11 to edge one to first slip. He's came in ready to land a quick 50 knock but has been dismissed 3rd ball to a steaming seamer from Nicholas Whitchell in his last over of the day for the BBC arselickers 11. Howzatt.

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2 hours ago, Left Back said:

I don't get the hostility, verging on hatred towards the monarchy.  I'm pretty meh about it myself.  Even if you accept (and there's an argument to be had about it) that they're a net cost to the country in the grand scheme of things it's trivial.

There's plenty other things tax money is spent on that I don't get any benefit out of but this spending makes some people in the country happy.  The sovereign grant was about £120m last year whereas (for example) spending on libraries is about £700-800 million.

If neither the libraries or monarchy existed I wouldn't lose a seconds sleep about either but I don't really begrudge spending on either as some people like them and they both serve a purpose.

Denis Diderot ~ “Man will only be free when the last king is strangled by  the entrails of the last priest.” [1924x792] : r/QuotesPorn

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1 hour ago, funky_nomad said:

If, post-treatment, Charles could see his way to diverting his state funding to the kind of cancer research that may end up extending his time on the throne, that'd be swell.

It's definitely not prostate cancer then?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, dirty dingus said:

Chucky has had a half decent career as a night watchman, although he was stuck in the dressing room padded up for years waiting for the Geoffrey Boycott of the World Royals test 11 to edge one to first slip. He's came in ready to land a quick 50 knock but has been dismissed 3rd ball to a steaming seamer from Nicholas Whitchell in his last over of the day for the BBC arselickers 11. Howzatt.

At least he hasn't holed out to his brother at deep 3rd man !!!

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3 hours ago, Brother Blades said:

The favourable tax arrangements, people being feted & given huge privilege at the cost of tax payers by pure accident of birth, hoarding of works of art etc that belong to the nation in general, having a nonce buy his way out of court using public money. I could go on, but you get the gist. There’s loads of reasons to dislike the monarchy. 

The government spent about £1.2tn in the last financial year according to the IFS.  £120m on the sovereign grant is about 0.01% of that.  Its the equivalent of earning £50k a year and getting your knickers in a twist for wasting a fiver.  Like I said, trivial.

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12 minutes ago, Left Back said:

The government spent about £1.2tn in the last financial year according to the IFS.  £120m on the sovereign grant is about 0.01% of that.  Its the equivalent of earning £50k a year and getting your knickers in a twist for wasting a fiver.  Like I said, trivial.

The sovereign grant is only one aspect of their cost to us. 

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24 minutes ago, Left Back said:

The government spent about £1.2tn in the last financial year according to the IFS.  £120m on the sovereign grant is about 0.01% of that.  Its the equivalent of earning £50k a year and getting your knickers in a twist for wasting a fiver.  Like I said, trivial.

Flawed argument in my opinion.

If I earned 50k a year (to use your example) and spent £5 on a shite product I'd be seething for a good while.

Especially if I found out later that the shite product was made by a company/firm with repulsive morals and crooked financial arrangements.

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11 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

The sovereign grant is only one aspect of their cost to us. 

Republic estimates the total cost as about £350m.  If you take that as gospel (and I’m not going to attack or defend their claims) it’s the equivalent of wasting £15 from £50k

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1 minute ago, Left Back said:

Republic estimates the total cost as about £350m.  If you take that as gospel (and I’m not going to attack or defend their claims) it’s the equivalent of wasting £15 from £50k

If I was on 50k a year, and got forced to spend £15 on something which I regard as morally wrong, I’d definitely complain about that too.

The point remains that it’s impossible to properly quantify how much they cost us. But it’s definitely not only the annual sovereign grant. 

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‘Hello is that Mr Carpetmonster? Oh hello yes, my name’s Simon Jones, I’m a lawyer. I have a client who’s a nonce, and he needs to pay off a victim - can I interest you in donating to his compensation efforts?’

’Eh, probably not mate, no.’ 

‘Go on, it’s only a quid, you’d barely notice it’ 

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22 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

The speed with which Harry has arrived back home suggests this diagnosis is probably fairly serious. 

Probably just doesn't fancy yet another Daily Mail led hate campaign against him and his wife for not doing what they think he ought to

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31 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

The speed with which Harry has arrived back home suggests this diagnosis is probably fairly serious. 

I was thinking that, too.

7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Probably just doesn't fancy yet another Daily Mail led hate campaign against him and his wife for not doing what they think he ought to

Although this has some merit...

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