oneteaminglasgow Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, RuMoore said: Starmer would kick f**k out of Corbyn in a scrap. Just saying. Starmer is 100% a 'stand at the side filming it' type in a scrap. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 46 minutes ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: Leave it Jez, he ain't worth it. 42 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Starmer is 100% a 'stand at the side filming it' type in a scrap. This stance is known amongst the ultra boxing elite group as a high level knock out strategy. Nonchalant then ducks and weaves to counter with a beautiful combo imgho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Didn't take long for the first "I canna mind getting that" answer from Sturgeon. Strange how she can answer for certain that WhatsApp wasn't used for decision making but can't remember being told to keep the messages. Even stranger given that she stated that all material relating to COVID would be retained for the enquiry whilst simultaneously deleting messages that relate to COVID. Anyone looking at her actions and responses when questioned and thinking that we had a FM with integrity is as blinkered as the number 6 running in the 15:25 at Chepstow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 20 minutes ago, strichener said: Didn't take long for the first "I canna mind getting that" answer from Sturgeon. Strange how she can answer for certain that WhatsApp wasn't used for decision making but can't remember being told to keep the messages. Even stranger given that she stated that all material relating to COVID would be retained for the enquiry whilst simultaneously deleting messages that relate to COVID. Anyone looking at her actions and responses when questioned and thinking that we had a FM with integrity is as blinkered as the number 6 running in the 15:25 at Chepstow. Fake news. The 15:25 is at Leicester and there are only 5 runners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 18 hours ago, Jedi2 said: I don't entirely have a 'staunch' backing of the Starmer project, as of course I would prefer to see a more socialist orientated Labour Party. No question that Starmer needs to both accept genuinely left wing voices in the party and try to work with them, not ostracise them. He also needs to be far more consistent on sticking to positions he takes up, and not try to row back on previously held pledges..there is no argument from me that he does that, and it needs to change. I do have genuine concerns about the SNP's current vision for Independence..I am not now or ever have been, opposed to Independence as a better overall future for Scotland. However, I wouldn't want to see it potentially wasted by a near decade of austerity, but rather to hear more left orientated voices in the SNP speaking up, and making the case, not for a 'socialist paradise' as I don't think its realistic they would do that, but at least for a prospectus which doesn't look to put the bankers, multinationals and big business interests in the driving seat. Quite right. We have been protected from austerity by the strong arms of the Union up till now. I’m guessing Westminster imposed austerity is better than Holyrood austerity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 While infighting between political parties is the norm and accepted from a long as politics have existed. I cannot think of any political party or Government as the SNP which is continually sustaining sniping, lies, spin and untruths on such a massive scale 24 hours per day from all TV and print media which is based and owned in another country, it is a type of fascism in the extreme. Which is all down to the threat of Scottish Independence which when you examine why all boils down to money, as here in Scotland we are continually informed that we cost far to much by the Westminster government, so why don't they let us go and stop with all the media attacks on the SNP and the Scottish Government if we are costing. The answer is Scottish Oil, without that billions of income and oil to export Westminster and england become smaller with less say and power in Europe and the World. We are forcibly chained to a corrupt westminster that has used and abused Scots in their wars for centuries with no reward other than to dump us in our wasteland cities and destroyed our steel and shipbuilding industries. No other country would accept this just as the other 65 countries throughout the world have declared Independence from england once they realised how they were being used. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 39 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: While infighting between political parties is the norm and accepted from a long as politics have existed. I cannot think of any political party or Government as the SNP which is continually sustaining sniping, lies, spin and untruths on such a massive scale 24 hours per day from all TV and print media which is based and owned in another country, it is a type of fascism in the extreme. Which is all down to the threat of Scottish Independence which when you examine why all boils down to money, as here in Scotland we are continually informed that we cost far to much by the Westminster government, so why don't they let us go and stop with all the media attacks on the SNP and the Scottish Government if we are costing. The answer is Scottish Oil, without that billions of income and oil to export Westminster and england become smaller with less say and power in Europe and the World. We are forcibly chained to a corrupt westminster that has used and abused Scots in their wars for centuries with no reward other than to dump us in our wasteland cities and destroyed our steel and shipbuilding industries. No other country would accept this just as the other 65 countries throughout the world have declared Independence from england once they realised how they were being used. Just when you think Sandy couldn't be more head's gone he posts this. Seriously Sandy you need help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Another thing. If you think posting as you do will change the minds of soft No voters to vote Yes if there is another referendum you are not. Infact you are making a great case for Unionists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: While infighting between political parties is the norm and accepted from a long as politics have existed. I cannot think of any political party or Government as the SNP which is continually sustaining sniping, lies, spin and untruths on such a massive scale 24 hours per day from all TV and print media which is based and owned in another country, it is a type of fascism in the extreme. Which is all down to the threat of Scottish Independence which when you examine why all boils down to money, as here in Scotland we are continually informed that we cost far to much by the Westminster government, so why don't they let us go and stop with all the media attacks on the SNP and the Scottish Government if we are costing. The answer is Scottish Oil, without that billions of income and oil to export Westminster and england become smaller with less say and power in Europe and the World. We are forcibly chained to a corrupt westminster that has used and abused Scots in their wars for centuries with no reward other than to dump us in our wasteland cities and destroyed our steel and shipbuilding industries. No other country would accept this just as the other 65 countries throughout the world have declared Independence from england once they realised how they were being used. I give you... And that was just a tiny selection of tabloid media directed towards Comrade Corbyn..never mind social media, radio and TV.. Bear in mind that this man was democratically elected as leader of the main opposition party in the UK, and then had to endure being cited as the Most Dangerous Man in Britain etc etc from right wing media (and yes, unsavoury types in his own party as well), day after day. And if you think 'oh well, Corbyn was an exception and it was mostly from his 'own side'..check out tabloids/TV/ radio, during Gordon Brown's time as PM It's 'only' the SNP who are criticised in the media?....Gies peace. Edited January 31 by Jedi2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Steelly said: Just when you think Sandy couldn't be more head's gone he posts this. Seriously Sandy you need help. You continually bleat on with deflective drivel while ignoring the fact that The Scottish Government is being subjected to Himmler type propaganda constantly. As with all brainwashed unionists your head is so far up your rule brittania arse you will never see daylight, I pity you. Lastly consider why all of these 65 Countries, some big yet some very small, washed their hands and bid a big good riddance to your beloved england. Answer that instead of childishly attempting and copying your english masters in rubbishing people like me who love Scotland and despise our country being dragged into the gutter by Westminster only for the monetary gain oil brings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So, Brown, Milliband, and particularly Corbyn weren't 'hounded' and vilified by the mainstream media, on different platforms, newsprint, TV, radio, and Social Media? It's 'only' the SNP who come in for 'any' criticism....seriously? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Steelly said: Just when you think Sandy couldn't be more head's gone he posts this. Seriously Sandy you need help. The SNP bit aside....Sandy's post is pretty fair tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, git-intae-thum said: The SNP bit aside....Sandy's post is pretty fair tbh Which bit? The 'Himmler' style propaganda, which has 'only' ever been directed by the media against the Scottish govt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Which bit? The 'Himmler' style propaganda, which has 'only' ever been directed by the media against the Scottish govt? Eh...you must be reading a different post to me. I was referencing the one Steely quoted. And I did specify regarding the bit about the SNP. Every political party takes flack. Although it is fair to say the SNP get it a bit tighter than most. The bias is not anti SNP per se....Its more a general media bias against independence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 weeks of headlines now about WhatsApp messages 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 36 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: So, Brown, Milliband, and particularly Corbyn weren't 'hounded' and vilified by the mainstream media, on different platforms, newsprint, TV, radio, and Social Media? It's 'only' the SNP who come in for 'any' criticism....seriously? By the Scottish press, yes It was the newsnight team digging into barrowman The Scottish press pack haven't even bothered 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Quitely Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Which bit? The 'Himmler' style propaganda, which has 'only' ever been directed by the media against the Scottish govt? You're not getting this are you ? ANY individual or political party which poses a threat to the UK military-political establishment will have the full firepower of the right-wing media trained on them. That's why the 2024 Labour Party is a yellow streak looking for a spine to run down and has called it wrong on so many issues such as the environment and North Sea exploration, Gaza and the disaster that is Brexit to name but three. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 31 minutes ago, Binos said: By the Scottish press, yes It was the newsnight team digging into barrowman The Scottish press pack haven't even bothered The same Scottish press that coughed and looked the other way when LORD STUART WINGS was banging the drum about the missing 600k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: You continually bleat on with deflective drivel while ignoring the fact that The Scottish Government is being subjected to Himmler type propaganda constantly. Could be worse, they could be subjected to Goebbels type propaganda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Jedi2 said: So, Brown, Milliband, and particularly Corbyn weren't 'hounded' and vilified by the mainstream media, on different platforms, newsprint, TV, radio, and Social Media? It's 'only' the SNP who come in for 'any' criticism....seriously? Wonder why Starmer isn't on your list 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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