Boo Khaki Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, ScotiaNostra said: Inter dimensional FC Incorporeal Madrid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Dunno. For every 'there's nothing in the Bible about extra-terrestrials" you'd get a 'nothing in the Bible says they aren't there'. In Biblical times I doubt if most folk had any idea what the stars they saw were, let alone about the existence of other planets. As I recall the first non-Earth planet discovered was Uranus, only a couple of centuries ago. Just remember the Vatican has an observatory run by priests… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: No, they just claim God created the entire universe, including everything in it, aliens and all. Been there, been round in circles with people who wilfully refuse to practise critical thinking. I honestly don't think that the theory of us being here as a product of some sort of intelligent design can be totally discredited. Do I think that the Universe and everything in it was designed by some all-seeing, all-knowing benevolent higher power who created us in his image? f**k no, don't be soft. Do I believe that there is a chance that the Universe is here as a result of something unimaginably larger than us that happened either by design or as a byproduct and we are absolute microspecs that are too insignificant to ever understand the concept of what is out there? Probably not, but I wouldn't totally discard it as a theory, unlike the omnipresent sky fairy theory. Do I believe that there are other life forms out there? 100%, there has to be. Anyone with more than a passing understanding of just how vast the universe is, the number of Galaxies, Stars, Habitable starts, planets in the life-supporting zone, would agree that life is very unlikely to be unique to Earth, nor is it all that likely to be particularly rare either. Whether any form of that life has made contact with us though or is even advanced enough to do so is a completely different question. To me, that's a 'no' unless they have put us here in the first place and are coming back to monitor the situation (which would be come craic for them I'm sure). If they've just happened upon us though, then by default, they are far more advanced than we could ever imagine and we'd prove no threat to them, so they would be at no risk to let us know of their existence and in fact by doing so, we'd probably be fucked as they could just take the planet at will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, TxRover said: Just remember the Vatican has an observatory run by priests… Observing celestial celibate bodies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: No, they just claim God created the entire universe, including everything in it, aliens and all. Been there, been round in circles with people who wilfully refuse to practise critical thinking. Given how unimaginably huge the universe is, if God did indeed create it all, I now understand why all these "thoughts and prayers" don't solve the gun problems in the US. He must just be too busy elsewhere to deal with them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Soapy FFC said: Given how unimaginably huge the universe is, if God did indeed create it all, I now understand why all these "thoughts and prayers" don't solve the gun problems in the US. He must just be too busy elsewhere to deal with them. If "He" is everywhere, and omnipotent (i.e. all powerful, he surely can't be too busy elsewhere. Even sitting watching an inhabited planet fall into a black hole shouldn't stop him answering a lottery related prayer, or a mad shooter in Texas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Soapy FFC said: Given how unimaginably huge the universe is, if God did indeed create it all, I now understand why all these "thoughts and prayers" don't solve the gun problems in the US. He must just be too busy elsewhere to deal with them. Perhaps guns, thieves, perverts and murderers are the good guys and we've got it wrong? Imagine spending the rest of eternity in hell because we got our moral code the wrong way around, like the food pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, TxRover said: Just remember the Vatican has an observatory run by priests… 9 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Observing celestial celibate bodies? https://www.kgun9.com/absolutely-az/why-the-popes-telescope-is-in-southern-arizona#:~:text="Show to the world that,how the Church supports science. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Tend to think that if there was an alien race advanced enough to master intergalactic travel, they'd take one look at the nick of the people in charge on this planet and either stay well clear or turn the planet into dust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 hours ago, TxRover said: https://www.kgun9.com/absolutely-az/why-the-popes-telescope-is-in-southern-arizona#:~:text="Show to the world that,how the Church supports science. Maybe the folk at the observatory should keep an eye out for ET rampaging towards Earth to obtain some of these - "A seal matrix used to authenticate medieval indulgences and offer a fast track to heaven in exchange for cash is to go on display at a Hampshire priory after spending 500 years buried in a field. The small carved mould, dating between 1470 and 1520............. Indulgences were written pardons for sinful behaviour granted by religious institutions in return for financial donation" From. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/28/rare-stamp-that-offered-fast-track-to-heaven-to-go-on-display-in-uk "fast track to heaven in exchange for cash"... sounds like the inspiration for Tories getting into the House of Lords. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 22 hours ago, ScotiaNostra said: Inter dimensional FC 2 - 1 Hibs FTFY 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 27/07/2023 at 14:34, Bob in Denny said: Aye okay... the burning question is what team do they really support? Dalekeith Thistle Cybermanchester City Vulcannan Athletic UFOrfar Athletic Close Encounters of the Third Lanark kind 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, tamthebam said: Dalekeith Thistle Cybermanchester City Vulcannan Athletic UFOrfar Athletic Close Encounters of the Third Lanark kind Surely Third Dalek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Denny Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 14 hours ago, tamthebam said: Dalekeith Thistle Cybermanchester City Vulcannan Athletic UFOrfar Athletic Close Encounters of the Third Lanark kind Cheers.. living in the so-called Bonnybridge Triangle.. I gotta be prepared.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Bob in Denny said: Cheers.. living in the so-called Bonnybridge Triangle.. I gotta be prepared.. I went to Duncan Stewart Memorial Park a couple of times when Bonnybridge Juniors were on the go. The midges will sort out any aliens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 The Kalam Cosmological Argument is a powerful one. Having watched several debates between Christian and atheist philosophers on the subject over the years, I absolutely believe that a personal, omnipotent God is the most likely explanation of the creation of the Universe. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 18 hours ago, tamthebam said: Dalekeith Thistle Cybermanchester City Vulcannan Athletic UFOrfar Athletic Close Encounters of the Third Lanark kind TommyKnockentibers AFC. They lost last night and they drew the night before.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said: The Kalam Cosmological Argument is a powerful one. Having watched several debates between Christian and atheist philosophers on the subject over the years, I absolutely believe that a personal, omnipotent God is the most likely explanation of the creation of the Universe. People have this outdated idea that a personal omnipotent God has to be an old man with a beard. But it turns out that guy only did the fjords. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 At some point I expect something we have sent out into space will encounter life. They may wonder about our intelligence that we can send something out there to them. By the time it happens we will have destroyed life on earth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 hours ago, BillyAnchor said: At some point I expect something we have sent out into space will encounter life. They may wonder about our intelligence that we can send something out there to them. By the time it happens we will have destroyed life on earth. the thing is “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” or at least that's according to a Guide I had. Voyager 2 is on the way to a star but I think it's going to take a million years to get there. Unless of course some Klingon bugger shoots the thing first.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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