Lokloyal Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Not been a great week with a very poor result again at Irvine but you kind of felt that was coming…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11TH MAY 1991 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Wit? of a banker....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocelot1877 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Just wanted to stop by and pass my condolences the fans of Pollok. Was pretty shocked at the news of them having money trouble as been to see them a few times over the years and always had great crowds and good players. Hopefully it gets sorted soon and there will be many a game at newlandsfield to come, think it’s a cracking wee ground. It’s never nice to see clubs in financial trouble but with the cost of living and expenses in football these days I can see how it can happen. Edited February 10 by Ocelot1877 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newlands74 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 45 minutes ago, Ocelot1877 said: Just wanted to stop by and pass my condolences the fans of Pollok. Was pretty shocked at the news of them having money trouble as been to see them a few times over the years and always had great crowds and good players. Hopefully it gets sorted soon and there will be many a game at newlandsfield to come, think it’s a cracking wee ground. It’s never nice to see clubs in financial trouble but with the cost of living and expenses in football these days I can see how it can happen. Calm doon. Nobody died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMX1 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Lokloyal said: Not been a great week with a very poor result again at Irvine but you kind of felt that was coming…. Was quite hopeful of a home win today regardless of all the Pollok issues. Ben & his team have been working hard to bring in some quality players. The group he has assembled in a short time will fight for every point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 18 hours ago, Ocelot1877 said: never nice to see clubs in financial trouble Aye it is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-1 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 How the hell can a team that gets regular numbers of 500 at a home game be in financial bother? Sounds like mismanagement from the board. On the field they aren't performing either. Tough times it appears. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Can any Pollok supporters confirm if the committee gave assurances at the EGM of how any potential donations would be spent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, jimbaxters said: Can any Pollok supporters confirm if the committee gave assurances at the EGM of how any potential donations would be spent? None of your business. Keep your neb oot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, AM-1 said: How the hell can a team that gets regular numbers of 500 at a home game be in financial bother? Due to not having home games, for one thing. As you rightly infer, Pollok depend to a significant extent on match day income. Between 18th November and 24th February - that's over 3 months - we will have had one match at home on a Saturday and one on a cold Wednesday evening. We had three home fixtures postponed in December & January, due to weather, followed by FIVE consecutive Saturdays playing only away games. That's not the whole story but it's a big part of it! Edited February 11 by archieb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 29 minutes ago, archieb said: None of your business. Keep your neb oot! Haha. You were crabbit enough before all this carry on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT91 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, archieb said: Due to not having home games, for one thing. As you rightly infer, Pollok depend to a significant extent on match day income. Between 18th November and 24th February - that's over 3 months - we will have had one match at home on a Saturday and one on a cold Wednesday evening. We had three home fixtures postponed in December & January, due to weather, followed by FIVE consecutive Saturdays playing only away games. That's not the whole story but it's a big part of it! A long run without any home games is always going to hit a club who relies on match day income hard. But surely financial planning should be factoring in the possibility of postponements in Dec/Jan. It's also unlucky to have a run of 5 away games in a row but again these are the kind of things that should be planned for. Between the two dates you have mentioned above, Pollok have added two new players to the wage bill, one of which would have included a transfer fee. It looks like mismangement at the top is more of the story than not having home games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passbackdave Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Pollok overspending for years. I wonder when it'll come back n bite them in the arse oh wait.... no sympathy fae me Mon the papers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 13 hours ago, KT91 said: A long run without any home games is always going to hit a club who relies on match day income hard. But surely financial planning should be factoring in the possibility of postponements in Dec/Jan. It's also unlucky to have a run of 5 away games in a row but again these are the kind of things that should be planned for. Between the two dates you have mentioned above, Pollok have added two new players to the wage bill, one of which would have included a transfer fee. It looks like mismangement at the top is more of the story than not having home games. I'm being serious; how is it you "plan" for surviving on one Saturday home game for months? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 24 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I'm being serious; how is it you "plan" for surviving on one Saturday home game for months? Every team plays the same number of home games of the course of a season, to be fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 34 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I'm being serious; how is it you "plan" for surviving on one Saturday home game for months? You save in advance for such an eventuality. It's basic budgeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhubarb1974 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 hours ago, KT91 said: A long run without any home games is always going to hit a club who relies on match day income hard. But surely financial planning should be factoring in the possibility of postponements in Dec/Jan. It's also unlucky to have a run of 5 away games in a row but again these are the kind of things that should be planned for. Between the two dates you have mentioned above, Pollok have added two new players to the wage bill, one of which would have included a transfer fee. It looks like mismangement at the top is more of the story than not having home games. I personally hope Pollok resolve the issue, however found it ironic that the statement said the board were behind Maxi, surely it is the board that need to go for sheer mismanagement? Does a club Pollok's size run from week to week? Looking at fixtures you have had 12 home games in all competitions, Talbot 13 home games in all comps however remained in clubs longer so as such will get more games home or away, Hurlford 13 home games in all competitions. These are the teams one place above one place below the only difference with both of them is they played more rounds in cup however you have completed more league games and went out cups earlier. We've played 12 home games in all competitions, again more cup games due to your early exit of all cups. Even Clydebank that have played the 2nd highest number of league games have only had 14 home games in all competitions, so 2 more than Pollok. I simply don't buy the argument of a run of games without a home game is the issue. You also had a run of 8 out of 11 games at start of season at home, in the better whether and when optimism was high, you are always going to get better numbers when its better whether than a wet freezing January afternoon when everyone is skint. Far more to it than run of fixtures, you surely know your average gate, committed sponsors for the season, season tickets sold and average income from food stall etc...per game. Cup games are treated as bonus income so shouldn't be included within the years financial projections. You then look at the income and compare it to outgoings from wages, daily running costs, pitch maintance etc...that then tells you your plus or minus. Does a club the size and following of Pollok not have savings? Are the relying on their pitch as prime development land as debt leverage? A run a fixtures away from home will dent income however when you had 8/11 games at start of season at home surely that money gets carried across to save for time when you don't have as good of run? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, glensmad said: Every team plays the same number of home games of the course of a season, to be fair. But, if I read this correctly, cash flow is the issue. Having a stack of games at the end of the year will be great for them. But not now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Hampden Diehard said: But, if I read this correctly, cash flow is the issue. Having a stack of games at the end of the year will be great for them. But not now. There should be plenty of cash there to get them through the winter. It's not the 1st time in Scottish football a team has a run of away games over the winter due to postponements or a bad run of fixtures. It's blatant mismanagement and short sightedness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT91 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hampden Diehard said: I'm being serious; how is it you "plan" for surviving on one Saturday home game for months? It's hardly unprecedented at this level of Scottish football in the Winter, is it? Personally don't think it's difficult to look at the finances and say "if we have a few home games postponed will we be struggling?" If the answer to that is yes, then don't go out and add players to your wage bill, especially if they will demand transfer fees. Edited February 12 by KT91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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