ICTChris Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 52 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: I wonder if the armed forces would want this? A year's National Service seems a,waste of time for them. They must prefer a longer service, to train a more professional outfit. And after a year? What do those 19 year oëds come out to? Personally, I am at the ready to serve my country in a new Dad's Army! Absolutely not. The Armed forces don’t have the capacity to absorb thousands of nee recruits. The ability to train, equip, house, feed and use an influx of conscripts does not exist. The training culture and methods are also not designed for large numbers of people who don’t really want to be there. And in the event that some of the people who join up become useful soldiers them they leave after a year, just as they become good assets for the military. I mean, this won’t be happening but it’s about the worst policy imaginable in many, many ways. That Sunak came up with this a couple of days into this campaign is amazing. What the hell will they be saying before polling day? Bring back proper bin men? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Big fan of National Service and the Rwanda Plan but only if shop prices go back to 1950s levels as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Being North of the border, I can't remember a more uncertain political landscape in which to vote. Growing up in my hometown, it was Labour that you voted for back then, without even thinking about it, you didn't even think twice. Starmer's intentions make me increasingly nervous. It is possible to think that the SNP give Scotland a brilliant deal but yet still don't want independence. You know the SNP can't/ won't separate this. Will there be a defection in voter's after recent laptop and embezzlement scandals? The Tories. Totally at a loss what to do if I'm being totally honest. I suspect I won't be alone in that regard, moreso up here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 There are currently 717,000 18 year olds in the UK. This policy proposes that around 5-10% of those will do military service, that’s 35,000 people. The British Army currently has 75,000 active servicemen and women. The idea that it has the capacity to take in around 50% of its current manpower every year is laughable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Presumably they will all go into the Navy to help STOP THE BOATS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Maybe the idea is to use these "volunteers" to do all the crap jobs that used to be done by foreigners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Just now, Fullerene said: Maybe the idea is to use these "volunteers" to do all the crap jobs that used to be done by foreigners. It absolutely is. Nobody's noticing the "...but you could also do community service" line tagged on to the headline of preparing the kids for WWIII. The pensioners in favour of this will be horrified when their nursing home is staffed by teenage "volunteers" with a grudge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 20 minutes ago, BukyOHare said: Being North of the border, I can't remember a more uncertain political landscape in which to vote. Growing up in my hometown, it was Labour that you voted for back then, without even thinking about it, you didn't even think twice. Starmer's intentions make me increasingly nervous. It is possible to think that the SNP give Scotland a brilliant deal but yet still don't want independence. You know the SNP can't/ won't separate this. Will there be a defection in voter's after recent laptop and embezzlement scandals? The Tories. Totally at a loss what to do if I'm being totally honest. I suspect I won't be alone in that regard, moreso up here. Cheer up! There's always the Liberal Democrats! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Up next the death penalty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Up next the death penalty I'm looking forward to the ration books. I've heard good things 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Mandatory national service for all 18 year olds! To maintain our fabled sense of British fair play surely a two child cap would be more just and equitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 18 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Up next the death penalty I was just about to post the same thing. Give it a fortnight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 They need to get our of the ECHR before capital punishment can be brought back. I remember the mainstream Tory crew used to find it amusing when you'd mention their leaders' fascination with reducing human rights (for some). Oh no, we'd never withdraw from the ECHR - alarmist nonsense. After fourteen years preparing the ground, it's now in the press on an almost daily basis, with people scrabbling about looking for reasons why it would be illegal under international law, or that it couldn't happen because of the Good Friday Agreement. Meanwhile the people running the country focus their efforts on subverting international law, and barely consider the Good Friday Agreement at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, sparky88 said: I'd almost like it just to see them try and give exemptions to EPL footballers. They're allowed to spend a year on an island with Danny Lennon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I am completely against the idea of compulsory military service (and voluntary, come to that) but maybe the 'community service' idea has legs. Perhaps Labour could 'steal' the Tory idea and tweak it. Why not earlier than 18? For school leavers with no prospects, for example? I have no idea how this might be organised. France has ' Service Civique' but it is voluntary. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BukyOHare Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, BFTD said: Cheer up! There's always the Liberal Democrats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 41 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I was just about to post the same thing. Give it a fortnight. ^^^ wants to get his affairs in order… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, Highlandmagar said: Personally, I am at the ready to serve my country in a new Dad's Army! Are you an Equity member? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I think we all know (as does Sunak himself) that this is just, another, desperate attempt to get all the auld right wingers who may have gone to Reform to keep voting Tory. It wont save him, or his party from whats coming their way, but might make a few amusing headlines in the Daily Express or whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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