Boo Khaki Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, VictorOnopko said: Apparently Starmer was up here in Scotchland today and made a speech in Greenock in which he stated how pleased he was to be in Glasgow. Make of that what you will. Well everything West of Harthill is weegie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 35 minutes ago, sparky88 said: His tear stained goodbyes and tributes from colleagues before he presumably asks for the job he resigned from 2 days ago back have been a particular highlight of the campaign so far. If he's daft enough to go try and muscle in for the candidacy of a place that there's footage of him calling a bin, I reckon he's daft enough to try and pull a George Costanza and just show back up and deny ever quitting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Iain Dale punted by the conservatives just a couple of days after quitting his media gigs to run for them. "Eh, about that job I told you to shove up your arse..." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 hours ago, Binos said: Who decides the boundary changes any clue The Boundary Commission. Probably the same people that brought you the NI border, the Cyprus Green Line, the borders of former African colonies and Arabia... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 hours ago, VictorOnopko said: Apparently Starmer was up here in Scotchland today and made a speech in Greenock in which he stated how pleased he was to be in Glasgow. Make of that what you will. At least he didn’t say how pleased he was to be on the west coast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, Binos said: Who decides the boundary changes any clue For Scottish UK parliamentary constituencies it's the Boundary Commission for Scotland based in Thistle House at Haymarket. I've never had any reason to question their fairness and impartiality and I don't think any serious people in politics have either. The people who work there are hardcore map and GIS nerds. https://www.bcomm-scotland.independent.gov.uk The number and size of constituencies is set in legislation passed at Westminster, so is political, as is the electoral register to be used. But once the rules have been set, the Boundary Commission for Scotland make the constituencies. Boundaries Scotland is in charge of Scottish Parliament and local government boundaries but they're the same staff, just with a different board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 48 minutes ago, tamthebam said: The Boundary Commission. Probably the same people that brought you the NI border, the Cyprus Green Line, the borders of former African colonies and Arabia... The worst border the Brits ever drew was probably India-Pakistan through Punjab and Bengal. The guy in charge, Sir Cyril Radcliffe, had never been further east than Paris in his life before, knew nobody in India, did it almost entirely based on a map of religions, and completed the job inside 5 weeks. His commission was made entirely of lawyers and included no geographers or cartographers. He refused outside help, including from the UN, to avoid being slowed down. He couldn't bear the Indian climate and got out of there as fast as he could. In the war that followed, up to 2 million people died. This was under the Labour government that gave us the NHS and much of the welfare state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 On 31/05/2024 at 00:18, Binos said: Get what That in a referendum you are not voting in an election for a party or personality. You are voting for a change in how your country is governed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 And clearly, our Brave Scots are happy being governed by England.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Starmer proposing an Energy company in Scotland. But in 2014 the oil and gas was running out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawpar Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Well everything West of Kincardine is weegie FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Let's be absolutely clear here, there is no energy company. It will not generate or supply electricity, it will not have any impact on people's bills. It's an investment vehicle, nothing more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Let's be absolutely clear here, there is no energy company. It will not generate or supply electricity, it will not have any impact on people's bills. It's an investment vehicle, nothing more. I think the confusion arises because the energy market seems quite complex. If Labour was proposing setting up a "British Food" company, that had no shops and sold no food then public would tell them to GTF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I think the confusion arises because the energy market seems quite complex. If Labour was proposing setting up a "British Food" company, that had no shops and sold no food then public would tell them to GTF. Might be popular with dieters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Wasn't sure whether to post this in the gaffes thread but it's just weird and possibly illegal behaviour. Robert Laggan, Conservative candidate for High Peaks has tweeted. And He also has a LibDem for Largan page on his home but I can't find any tweet in the same format as above. No mention of Conservatives for largn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 hour ago, Suspect Device said: Wasn't sure whether to post this in the gaffes thread but it's just weird and possibly illegal behaviour. Robert Laggan, Conservative candidate for High Peaks has tweeted. And He also has a LibDem for Largan page on his home but I can't find any tweet in the same format as above. No mention of Conservatives for largn. His whole Twitter account seems a small push away from outright parody. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 11 minutes ago, BFTD said: His whole Twitter account seems a small push away from outright parody. Carol is on the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Who'd have thought we'd end up in a world where Carol Vorderman was anything other than a quiet Tory, and Rachel Riley would be...well, whatever she is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Clavdivs Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 The GE is rapidly turning into a US Presidential style two horse race between two ghastly shams trying to out Tory each other .Depressing doesn't come close . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, I Clavdivs said: The GE is rapidly turning into a US Presidential style two horse race between two ghastly shams trying to out Tory each other .Depressing doesn't come close . I think this is why there was such anguish over the Diane Abbott and Faiza Shaheen situations. Black and Muslim women in deprived urban areas have always had to fight against the constant attempts to disenfranchise them from UK politics. Abbott and Shaheen mattered because those two figures represented the small amount of purchase these groups had managed to get for themselves. Of course Diane Abbott is flawed and her supporters know that but she is all they have. Yet even that was too much. Those figures had to go. The disenfranchisement had to be complete. Abbott and Shaheen was the culmination of a gradual process of screw tightening. Kate Osamor, Zahra Sultana, Apsana Begum and other figures had long been targeted too. The direction of travel, as you point out, is towards a US-style system. That's the eventual destination. Governance which keeps the populace as distant from their own democracy as possible. Where we don't actually get on anything that can meaningfully change our society's economic arrangements. Poor Black and Muslim women are the canaries in the coalmine. They're being disenfranchised first because its easiest to do so. Consent is easily achieved for that because you can rely on the sexism and racism of sensible centrist dads to kick in. Yet it won't stop with the poor Black and Muslim women. See how much of society has also been disenfranchised in 20-30 years time if this path continues unchallenged. "I never thought my family's access to healthcare/housing/education/decent jobs would ever be reduced" the centrist dads will be howling, having been too sensible for their own good all along. Too many folk don't understand the fundamental nature to electoral politics. What you end up with is a compromise between antagonistic forces. Therefore, you need a harder force to end up with a softer result. How do folk think we got our NHS and welfare state after WW2? How did we win those concessions from the ownership class? The reason is they were terrified by the possibility of millions of newly war-hardened working class men revolting. As had happened elsewhere in Europe. The resulting social democracy we got in the 1940s was a compromise between socialism and capitalism. Starmer defeated Sunak and the Tories months ago. This election has now become about Starmer versus the ghost of Corbyn. So many fucking idiots are supporting this not realising where it is taking UK politics. Where it is shifting things. Edit: To clarify, the "fucking idiots" aren't Labour voters. It was various public figures I had in mind. Folk with the platform to influence opinion. Edited June 1 by Freedom Farter 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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