BFTD Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 12 minutes ago, Aufc said: To be fair, the SNP are also absolutely terrible. Disclaimer: other terrible political parties are also available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 BBC R 4 this morning had on some Lib Dem spokeswoman who was discussing their policies, and then mentioned that it was difficult being "the third party at Westminster". Was she challenged on this statement? Was she f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 10 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Time for the public service announcement! The most important thing in any election is turnout. IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE ON HOLIDAY AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION MAKE SURE YOU APPLY FOR A POSTAL VOTE. I don't want to hear any pissy "ah wud huv voted tae keep yon erse oot, but ah wus in Torremolinos" stuff. I don't care who P&Bers vote for, just vote FFS. As had already been mentioned, the Council staff will be under extreme pressure in the run up to polling day so don't leave your application until the last minute. Help them to help you. If you will be away from before the postal votes are issued, arrange a postal proxy - with someone you can trust! Got mine and my wife's postal vote application in last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Leith Green said: BBC R 4 this morning had on some Lib Dem spokeswoman who was discussing their policies, and then mentioned that it was difficult being "the third party at Westminster". Was she challenged on this statement? Was she f**k. They won't even be third after this election. There's a new Tory protest vote in town. They're in an odd position now where proportional representation wouldn't do a lot for them, but would be massive for their competitor. No wonder it's stopped being a priority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 minutes ago, BFTD said: They won't even be third after this election. There's a new Tory protest vote in town. They're in an odd position now where proportional representation wouldn't do a lot for them, but would be massive for their competitor. No wonder it's stopped being a priority. The big thing with PR for the Lib Dems isn’t so much just about increasing their own number of seats, it’s about making hung parliaments the norm so that they can alternate coalitions between the two main parties. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Zetterlund said: There was a clip doing the rounds on Twitter last week of an interview with renowned normal one Andrew Bridgen MP, who claimed Sunak would imminently call an early election as he wanted out before Britain formally declares we're at war with Russia later this summer. Apparently the Russian ambassador to the UK told him his country already considers us to be at war as it's UK personnel lobbing our bombs at them. I didn't give it much thought at the time given who it was making the claims, but he got the first bit right at least. Nice knowing you all. I blame Berwick-upon-Tweed for this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 7 hours ago, Soapy FFC said: Is it possible to do this before the election, or did he just lie to the mother? If he did that, it demonstrates once and for all what an odious little creep Sunak is. Pity Dross wasn't asked about that kind of thing on Radio Scotland this morning, instead of him being allowed to rave on about devolved issues during a discussion about a UK general election. His nonsense reminded me of a Labour leaflet, I think at the previous GE when the candidate was focused on things like roads and police which had sweet FA to do with Westminster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Dross wasn't asked about that kind of thing on Radio Scotland this morning, instead of him being allowed to rave on about devolved issues during a discussion about a UK general election. The lib Dem Clown Cole Hamilton did that yesterday, babbling on about the Scottish NHS as if this is actually a GE issue. The biggest problem is that the BBC reporters simply dont challenge this line, its like they have been brainwashed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 There's a bit of chat about whether the nation's success or failure in the Euros will affect the vote. This is pretty depressing that people could be swayed by short term feelgood factors but how much of an influence would it be? Scotland do well = SNP do well???? England do well = Tories do well??? Why not Reform? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I seem to recall that a wee while ago someone pulled together a list of things that Starmer promised as part of his leadership campaign and since then as Labour leader which he has since gone back on. Anyone have it handy? Might be useful if Labour canvassers come calling. I seem to recall mention of the abolition of the House of Lords for example? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I seem to recall that a wee while ago someone pulled together a list of things that Starmer promised as part of his leadership campaign and since then as Labour leader which he has since gone back on. Anyone have it handy? Might be useful if Labour canvassers come calling. I seem to recall mention of the abolition of the House of Lords for example? Good idea. Here you go. https://www.bigissue.com/news/politics/keir-starmer-broken-promises-tuition-fees-nationalisation-u-turn/#:~:text=Labour's promise to scrap tuition,to be leader in 2020. Or, in more succinct form: https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf Edited May 23 by The DA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Farage not running. Major sigh of relief in number 10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 10 hours ago, GordonS said: We don't have this because we don't have a formal constitution. Cameron's first government passed the Fixed-term Parliaments Act in 2011, setting general elections on the first Thursday in May every five years unless there was a two-thirds majority vote in the Commons for one sooner. The 2015 was the first election under it, and the 2017 election followed a two-thirds majority as Corbyn's Labour voted for it, with bring-it-on bravado. However, as we don't have a formal constitution no Act is any more important than any other and they can all be repealed or amended by a simple majority in Parliament. The Early Parliamentary General Election Act 2019 was fast-tracked through in two days for the last election, though it also had Labour support. In 2022 both of the above Acts were repealed by the Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act, restoring the power of the prime minister to request an election from the monarch whenever they please. Only nerds noticed and it was barely reported. The only way to fix the term for elections and put it out of reach of the politicians is to have a formal constitution. The same goes for things like devolution, which 326 MPs could abolish any time they feel like it. But we'll never have a real constitution because only nerds care about it and nobody else understands why it matters. Not to worry, we have a man on the inside. @Ad Lib fix this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: Farage not running. Major sigh of relief in number 10. Probably joining Labour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Is Grifter Galloway bothering his arse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 12 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Who are you voting for? Nobody. There isn't a party that is sufficiently attractive enough. I was one of those that held my nose and voted SNP for independence reasons only. Now that they have fucked that and piss about spending political capital on issues that won't be out of place in community councils whilst forming coalitions with other parties without any mandate (nor any real need) then they can sing for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 12 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: Do keep up. Did you miss the announcement of a general election levy on the individual branch HQ accounts back in December or (more likely) are you just indulging in a bit of 'SNP baaaaad' So a case of robbing Paul to pay Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I'm sure the constituents of South Bigotshire (Pop 98% White British) are gutted that they won't get the opportunity to vote for Farage to be their MP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, strichener said: Nobody. There isn't a party that is sufficiently attractive enough. I was one of those that held my nose and voted SNP for independence reasons only. Now that they have fucked that and piss about spending political capital on issues that won't be out of place in community councils whilst forming coalitions with other parties without any mandate (nor any real need) then they can sing for it. I understand what you are saying. Clearly the recent past has been... ahem... "difficult" for the SNP. I'm hopeful for a high turnout, as that adds legitimacy to the results and gives a reasonably clear impression of what the electorate thinks (even allowing for FPTP) and there are obvious dangers in not voting. As someone who supports Scottish independence, I could never allow myself to contribute to the notion that a drop in support at the ballot box was a reflection of a drop in support for that independence. I wish that the SNP, the Greens and Alba could agree to work together on a pro-independence ticket, but can't see that happening by 4 July, if at all. The key point is that any drop in voting numbers for the SNP will be leapt upon by unionists like Dross, Sarwar, Starmer, Braverman, Farage, Galloway and the rest. I'm not going to do anything to put a smile on their faces. This might be a time for the good old "hold your nose and vote" tactic. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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