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Scraping top of the table with that turgidity is very annoying. Perhaps The Best League in The World (TM), where most of their squad plays, is actually only so because of the top foreigners.

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Bellingham ...over Englands 3 group games...has underperformed.

He has constantly gone down under minimal contact and doesnt understand why referees dont realise he is Jude Bellingham.

He's a young guy and plays for Real Madrid but is believing his own publicity.

No way Southgate will drop him though he deserves to be.

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2 minutes ago, TONTROOPER said:

Bellingham ...over Englands 3 group games...has underperformed 

One of his best assets is getting beyond the striker problem is in England system that means he is still in his own half.

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3 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

One of his best assets is getting beyond the striker problem is in England system that means he is still in his own half.

Quite a thing to hear England have a striker problem .

Have Bayern signed a dud?

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This England chat is reminding me of the World Cup in 1990, where they were so duff that everyone was bemoaning the state of English football after the group stage (where they won 1-0, drew 1-1 and 0-0, and finished top of the group).

Happily, everything was fine after they shaded an extra-time game against Belgium, beat rank outsiders Cameroon thanks to a couple of dodgy penalties, and didn't get completely horsed in the semis by Ze Germans. Dunno if such a redemption arc is possible here, considering finishing fourth is no longer an exceptional result.

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8 hours ago, Oystercatcher said:

England with their multi millionaires scored the same amount of goals as Scotland in the group stage 

We stink the place out and quite rightly finish last and slink home.

They stink the place out and win their group. Without getting too McGlashan about it the amount of luck England carry in major tournaments is truly a thing of wonder.

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1 hour ago, Richie said:

Bore draw with the Netherlands then out on pens

That gives me the fear. 
 

Holland are possibly the only country in world football worse at penalties than England

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9 minutes ago, JS_FFC said:

Very interesting that on paper their squad is excellent in attack and porous in defence they get through the group with only 2 goals scored and 1 conceded.

Southgate would probably be an ideal manager if you had generational talents at centre half, full backs and defensive midfield.

I don't think he really knows how to get the best out of the quality forward players that England have.

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Some interesting points.  England have been lucky for the last few tournaments, but we have had some competent managers who weren't lucky.  You have more current and ex-players giving their opinion that the squad is amazing.  You can't be seen to be seeing your arse with journalists, if they ask you a question.  There is easy access for any Nigel to come on national radio and slate you.  The narrative that the EPL is the best in the world, we were rubbish and an inquest is required is never far away.    It has already started.  Folk think that because you have more players than other nations, they must all be great so bin him off and get another in.  You have probably three distinct football fan viewpoints - want my players back at their club asap, would be nice if our players did ok, or right into it.  It will all play itself out with a different cast, next time.

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