Next permanent manager of the Conservative and Unionist Party 2024

[Highlandmagar]

Cleverly out. Now the Tories will go full fascist.

[welshbairn]

f**king Tory c***s stitch up. 

[Michael W]

4 hours ago, Michael W said:

You'd fancy most of Tugendhat's support goes behind Cleverly. So it'll be him versus whichever of Badenoch/Jenrick throws enough red meat. Cleverly will win the MPs, but will lose to the other on the membership vote, as they'll mostly think he's some sort of lefty and should, in fact, go and join the Lib Dems. 

Badenoch is entirely unsuited for any type of leadership role whatsoever. She is thin-skinned to the point that even benign criticism cannot be accepted, and she will instantly go on the attack and start an argument, no matter how petty: "misquoted", "misunderstood' or some bumpf about the right type of person getting upset  Some will like her for being combative, but really it's an inability to properly control her emotions and it is really quite immature. She seems like the type of person that spends too much time in an echo chamber on the Internet. 

Jenrick is a bit different: he's a genuine piece of shit and not some posturing culture warrior. The stuff he comes out with are his own views - it's not posturing to try and win the role. He is also corrupt- that housing development in London that mysteriously went ahead after he had a meeting and he also took a donation through a UK company that is clearly a front. Another who should be nowhere near any leadership position. 

 

Well, that aged well. 

Wouldn't be surprised if there's been shenanigans there to punt Cleverly. How's he manged to get -2 when his closest comparator was eliminated yesterday? 

Thin-skinned culture warrior or textbook right wing crank. Choose your fighter, blue rinse brigade.

 

Edited October 9 by Michael W

[Alert Mongoose]

You love to see it. Just means another leadership race when they realise Badenoch is stunningly out of her depth and unelectable.  Or she is deported whichever comes first.

[doulikefish]

Fruitloop v Fruitloop in the final 2 

They will be joining with reform in under a year imo 

[welshbairn]

I wonder if some Cleverly supporters lent their votes to one of the other two to give him a more favourable ride in the members vote? Really odd that he seems to have got no Tugenhat votes. 

[Highlandmagar]

Just now, doulikefish said:

Fruitloop v Fruitloop in the final 2 

They will be joining with reform in under a year imo 

Yep. Can see them merging with Farage's Fascists.

[Highlandmagar]

Just now, welshbairn said:

I wonder if some Cleverly supporters lent their votes to one of the other two to give him a more favourable ride in the members vote? Really odd that he seems to have got no Tugenhat votes. 

That's exactly what they are saying on Sky News.

[Michael W]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I wonder if some Cleverly supporters lent their votes to one of the other two to give him a more favourable ride in the members vote? Really odd that he seems to have got no Tugenhat votes. 

He's actually lost two votes 

[Highlandmagar]

Ah well. Who will the blue rinse brigade go for. The black fascist or the white fascist.

[Billy Jean King]

2 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:

Ah well. Who will the blue rinse brigade go for. The black fascist or the white fascist.

Mmmmm let me think......

[Savage Henry]

22 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Fruitloop v Fruitloop in the final 2 

They will be joining with reform in under a year imo 

I’d have said this was excellent fun, but it does mean an amplified voice for Lozza Fox/ his fake priest pal / Wings/ Jum Spence /[insert brain mush Twitterati of your choice]. 
 

The lurch to the right continues unabated.  Fun times.  

[scottsdad]

This is the funniest thing yet. 

The party that chose IDS over Ken Clarke, that chose Truss over Sunak, gets to choose between two utter braindead simpletons whose only reflex is to inflict cruelty and division. 

[sparky88]

John Hughes more likely to be Prime Minister than the last two left in the race.

[BFTD]

Just now, sparky88 said:

John Hughes more likely to be Prime Minister than the last two left in the race.

I thought that about the weird jelly baby they chose in 2005, after a string of unelectable failures.

Then the credit crunch happened.

[scottsdad]

Lots on this:

Looks like the Cleverley people were trying to engineer who his opponent would be in the final, and it backfired. 

[scottsdad]

 

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Badenoch is about to very quickly find out that her weird culture war obession isn't much of a concern to a party membership that would have her deported in an instant.

[GordonS]

26 minutes ago, BFTD said:

I thought that about the weird jelly baby they chose in 2005, after a string of unelectable failures.

Then the credit crunch happened.

IMO the credit crunch made no difference, Labour were done anyway. There's no way England was voting for Gordon Brown, a man with all the charisma of an ironing board. Remember that time they made him smile?

Cameron was a much better candidate than any available to the Tories now. Hug-a-hoodie, his trip to the Arctic, his tacit admittance of taking cocaine and cannabis, support for gay marriage and adoption, commencing the Equality Act - the Tory right hated him. He is a centrist, socially liberal and had good political and media instincts.

All Tories are Tory, but some are more Tory than others. 

Badenoch's biggest problem is that she's stupid. She's Truss on steroids and wouldn't last 18 months in the job. Jenrick might be able to go the distance. We'll see.

Edited October 9 by GordonS

[Boo Khaki]

22 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

Looks like the Cleverley people were trying to engineer who his opponent would be in the final, and it backfired. 

Definitely seems that way