sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Not really petty, but the fact that religious fuckwits say that they will continue to harass women looking for councilling and help from an abortion clinic in London where the local council has been obliged to introduce a buffer zone to keep these fucking halfwits at bay. Seriously? Morons gonna moron I suppose! Do these fuckwits think going back to the days of women using gin & knitting needles for homemade/back street abortions is in any way a good move?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, sjc said: Seriously? Morons gonna moron I suppose! Do these fuckwits think going back to the days of women using gin & knitting needles for homemade/back street abortions is in any way a good move?! Yours is a rational argument. People who are motivated by what ‘god’ tells them to do are not rational creatures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Yours is a rational argument. People who are motivated by what ‘god’ tells them to do are not rational creatures. Fundamentalists eh?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, sjc said: Fundamentalists eh?! I think you can get rational fundamentalists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Having to wait until half 5 this evening for the Mess to open is grinding my gears somewhat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I think you can get rational fundamentalists. You only say that because you're an atheist fundamentalist...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, sjc said: You only say that because you're an atheist fundamentalist...... I probably regard myself as an agnostic but that may be hair splitting. Either way it is a view based on rationality rather than superstition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I probably regard myself as an agnostic but that may be hair splitting. Either way it is a view based on rationality rather than superstition. We've had this conversation before and as an atheist myself I tend to agree with you however I'm not disparaging towards those that follow their religion peacefully for whatever rationale though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, sjc said: We've had this conversation before and as an atheist myself I tend to agree with you however I'm not disparaging towards those that follow their religion peacefully for whatever rationale though. So long as they don't try to force their beliefs on others. Apparently until this year it was illegal for pubs in the RoI to open on Good Friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, GordonD said: So long as they don't try to force their beliefs on others. Apparently until this year it was illegal for pubs in the RoI to open on Good Friday. Absolutely. Didn't know that about pubs in the ROI. Not sure I believe it TBH! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, sjc said: We've had this conversation before and as an atheist myself I tend to agree with you however I'm not disparaging towards those that follow their religion peacefully for whatever rationale though. There are a lot of religious people who are good, kind, decent folk, but I think they would have the same qualities if they didn’t believe in a sky fairy. I find a lack of rationality, particularly on major issues, to be a worry. 17 minutes ago, sjc said: Absolutely. Didn't know that about pubs in the ROI. Not sure I believe it TBH! It’s true. I didn’t know about until this year when the law was changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, GordonD said: So long as they don't try to force their beliefs on others. Apparently until this year it was illegal for pubs in the RoI to open on Good Friday. My first year in TFS, I headed off to the pub on Good Friday only to find it shut! Shocked wasn't the word for it, particularly as I could have done with a couple or four 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Not really petty, but the fact that religious fuckwits say that they will continue to harass women looking for councilling and help from an abortion clinic in London where the local council has been obliged to introduce a buffer zone to keep these fucking halfwits at bay. The woman I saw on the telly the other day said they were there to offer support/alternatives rather than harass/intimidate I always feel as if when I see someone talking about this sort of thing as if they're acutely aware the whole time that they're peddling vile shite but don't want to admit it. It's really weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There are a lot of religious people who are good, kind, decent folk, but I think they would have the same qualities if they didn’t believe in a sky fairy. I find a lack of rationality, particularly on major issues, to be a worry. It’s true. I didn’t know about until this year when the law was changed. Some things simply cannot be dealt with by rationale though. With certain things in life if you did , you wouldn't sleep at night. Religion as a coping mechanism in these circumstances makes sense IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, sjc said: Some things simply cannot be dealt with by rationale though. With certain things in life if you did , you wouldn't sleep at night. Religion as a coping mechanism in these circumstances makes sense IMO. I don’t want this develop into a tedious exchange (though some will say it already has), but I cannot endorse the view than an adult using fantasy as a coping method for reality is a good or positive thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t want this develop into a tedious exchange (though some will say it already has), but I cannot endorse the view than an adult using fantasy as a coping method for reality is a good or positive thing. You don't get out of it that easily! What do you think coping mechanisms are? They're effectively a fantasy that help the user detach themselves from the reality of a situation in order to cope. The key is not to lose yourself from reality within the fantasy permanently. I personally don't use religion but have used other forms of coping mechanisms to productive effects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Not really petty, but the fact that religious fuckwits say that they will continue to harass women looking for councilling and help from an abortion clinic in London where the local council has been obliged to introduce a buffer zone to keep these fucking halfwits at bay. They are having a referendum over here to allow abortion. The anti ads are up already. A 9 week ultra sound with I kick and burp - I'm alive... I wonder where they got the 9 week scan as its a pain in the tits for getting a 12 week scan here. So long as they don't try to force their beliefs on others. Apparently until this year it was illegal for pubs in the RoI to open on Good Friday. And in the shops. I couldn't believe it last year I could not buy beer and wine with my weekly shop. This year there was a few tuts in the queue but I wasn't fussed.Religion is weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Sitting next to two guys, 1 Egyptian & 1 Russian, both claiming that “we” (arsenal) need to get through.As you can imagine, this is not petty! Arsehiles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, weirdcal said: This year there was a few tuts in the queue Racist! You should call them 'Egyptian people'. Edited April 12, 2018 by GordonD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Didn't know where to put this but it had me chortling out loud. "athlete" "bowling" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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