Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said: Bluebells. They're not blue, so whoever came up with that name needs a good slap in the puss. Bobby has had his Twitter account suspended for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Ah cool, gotcha. Yeah, as far as negatives of Brexit go, they are a pretty poor example of one. Well not really since we "took back control" we need more staff to look after the borders and conduct checks. There weren't enough to do this and recruiting and training has taken longer than expected. Combine that with airports, like a lot of low paying employers, requiring foreign labour, it's a perfectly fine example of the Brexit that was pursued being a completely hopeless idea that will inevitably fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, 101 said: Well not really since we "took back control" we need more staff to look after the borders and conduct checks. There weren't enough to do this and recruiting and training has taken longer than expected. Combine that with airports, like a lot of low paying employers, requiring foreign labour, it's a perfectly fine example of the Brexit that was pursued being a completely hopeless idea that will inevitably fail. Again, this has no relevance at all to the, frankly made up, claim of "Brexit now makes us queue to get into / out of the EU" as though queues weren't a thing before. There were always nonsense queues at Scottish airports as well btw as they never seemed to bother opening the e-Gates - something that Brexit has had no impact on. I'm convinced that not really being able to travel for 2 years has resulted in people falsely remembering internation travel before Brexit as some hassle free utopia where you could waltz through an airport in a few minutes without any queues. Edited May 18, 2022 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_14 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 ‘We never stop’ ‘We go again’‘We move’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Again, this has no relevance at all to the, frankly made up, claim of "Brexit now makes us queue to get into / out of the EU" as though queues weren't a thing before. There were always nonsense queues at Scottish airports as well btw as they never seemed to bother opening the e-Gates - something that Brexit has had no impact on. I'm convinced that not really being able to travel for 2 years has resulted in people falsely remembering internation travel before Brexit as some hassle free utopia where you could waltz through an airport in a few minutes without any queues. Spanish police making it up as well aye? https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2022/02/24/police-union-demands-extra-officers-for-spains-costa-blanca-airport-to-reduce-uk-traveller-queues-at-passport-control/ The airport advice itself recognises that there are increased delays flying to the UK - Quote It is recommended that you arrive at least 2 hours in advance at the airport to check in your luggage and pass through the security checkpoints (3 hours in case of flights to Non-Schengen areas). https://www.aeropuertoalicante-elche.com/eng/checkin-alicante.htm To say that there are no increased delays to international travel due to increased security checks at border controls is frankly bizarre and denying reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) That timing recommendation has always been the case and would still apply to the UK before Brexit because it was never a Schengen country. The only difference is putting a stamp on a passport which does not explain the constant delays and f**k-ups of international travel right now. I'd put difficulty hiring after the pandemic, incompetent management of demand after the pandemic and of course incompetent carriers (see easyJet) as more important causes. Edited May 18, 2022 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Bluebells. They're not blue. Yes they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Bluebells. They're not blue, so whoever came up with that name needs a good slap in the puss. Yes they are. We've got a song about them and everything. 10 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Yes they are. Betting on us and backing us up on matters horticultural. Big team found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: To say that there are no increased delays to international travel due to increased security checks at border controls is frankly bizarre and denying reality. I didn't say there were no increased delays, I said that any increases were much smaller than people are claiming as they are making out the wait time was basically zero before, which is complete nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Betting on us and backing us up on matters horticultural. Big team found.Suppose we should let yous have that if it distracts you from singing about all that other stuff.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: I see photos like this a lot. Queues are shite, but I also feel there's a fair bit of historical revisionism going on about passport control queues prior to Brexit. They absolutely existed, and they could take a considerable time to get through depending how late you got off your plane. They may be worse now, but not by anything like as much as is being made out. I don't remember ever taking more than half an hour tops to get out of an airport pre Brexit, apart from shortly after 9/11 in Washington. Mind you I haven't been in bad queues since Brexit either. There were a lot of pissed of locals getting off a plane in Lisbon during covid when there was a separate queue for non EU flyers and there was only me and couple of others swanning past the EU queue. Schiphol's got a bit annoying since Brexit but not massively so. Edited May 18, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 1 hour ago, KnightswoodVanBear said: Betting on us and backing us up on matters horticultural. Big team found. Suppose we should let yous have that if it distracts you from singing about all that other stuff.... John Lundstram? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, KnightswoodVanBear said: Yes they are. We've got a song about them and everything. And someday somebody will write a second line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I don't remember ever taking more than half an hour tops to get out of an airport pre Brexit, apart from shortly after 9/11 in Washington. Mind you I haven't been in bad queues since Brexit either. There were a lot of pissed of locals getting off a plane in Lisbon during covid when there was a separate queue for non EU flyers and there was only me and couple of others swanning past the EU queue. Schiphol's got a bit annoying since Brexit but not massively so. The old passport control in Edinburgh always used to piss me off. One queue for EU and one for the rest. The EU queue was always hoaching while the rest had about half a dozen people in it that flew through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, GordonD said: And someday somebody will write a second line. Why try to improve on perfection? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: 2 hours ago, KnightswoodVanBear said: Betting on us and backing us up on matters horticultural. Big team found. Suppose we should let yous have that if it distracts you from singing about all that other stuff.... Its probably a song about bluebells marching over to Ireland and battering all the f****n shamrocks. Disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Pick me’s. Get rid of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Bluebells. They're not blue, so whoever came up with that name needs a good slap in the puss. I have it on good authority that, while they are indeed quite dandy, dandelions are not in fact lions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, The Golden God said: Pick me’s. Get rid of them. You talking about Bluebells too aye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I have it on good authority that, while they are indeed quite dandy, dandelions are not in fact lions. Good thread for a dandelion mention.I absolutely hate those b*****ds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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