Herman Hessian Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 discussion about the coppa italia final on the R5 euro-football chat just now; bloke avoids any 'streets of raith' embarrassment by stating that 'it was a disappointing night for the atalanta fans making the trip up to rome from bergamo' - but, as anyone but the most inept navigational cretins will know, rome is south of bergamo, and - observing convention in place since the earliest mapping - he should have said "down to rome from bergamo...' close, but no fucking cigar, you halfwit... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Herman Hessian said: discussion about the coppa italia final on the R5 euro-football chat just now; bloke avoids any 'streets of raith' embarrassment by stating that 'it was a disappointing night for the atalanta fans making the trip up to rome from bergamo' - but, as anyone but the most inept navigational cretins will know, rome is south of bergamo, and - observing convention in place since the earliest mapping - he should have said "down to rome from bergamo...' close, but no fucking cigar, you halfwit... Trains are described as going up to London no matter what direction they're travelling. Maybe Rome is the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Trains are described as going up to London no matter what direction they're travelling. Maybe Rome is the same.That's not true. I'm going down to London on the train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, GordonD said: Trains are described as going up to London no matter what direction they're travelling. Maybe Rome is the same. 18 minutes ago, pandarilla said: That's not true. I'm going down to London on the train. I should have said 'described by trainspotters'. Normal people like us would say 'down'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'WellDel Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, pandarilla said: That's not true. I'm going down to London on the train. Being totally pedantic , travelling by train you would technically be going Down to London , but you would , indeed , be doing so on the Up line . Enjoy your journey down/up , and your return up/down . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, 'WellDel said: Being totally pedantic... which is absolutely deserving of a greenie - good work ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, GordonD said: I should have said 'described by trainspotters'. Normal people like us would say 'down'. Remembering opposition jibes of yesteryear its funny how a Meadowbank fan knows the lingo of trainspotters... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, tamthebam said: Remembering opposition jibes of yesteryear its funny how a Meadowbank fan knows the lingo of trainspotters... Apparently not; see 'welldel's post. Speaking of which, can you be partially pedantic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Herman Hessian said: discussion about the coppa italia final on the R5 euro-football chat just now; bloke avoids any 'streets of raith' embarrassment by stating that 'it was a disappointing night for the atalanta fans making the trip up to rome from bergamo' - but, as anyone but the most inept navigational cretins will know, rome is south of bergamo, and - observing convention in place since the earliest mapping - he should have said "down to rome from bergamo...' close, but no fucking cigar, you halfwit... I was in Gourock last Sunday and somebody how long it takes to come up from Dundee. Silly b*****d. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I licked an envelope earlier (a card for someone) and sliced my face open in the process. You try and do a good deed.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: I licked an envelope earlier (a card for someone) and sliced my face open in the process. You try and do a good deed.... Nice look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I believe one is always supposed to say "up to" when referring to the capital, regardless of the geographic direction. Or altitude. Also, Oxford & Cambridge universities. Not sure about St. Andrews but maybe Scarface above can confirm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: I was in Gourock last Sunday. Silly b*****d. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shotgun said: I believe one is always supposed to say "up to" when referring to the capital, regardless of the geographic direction. Or altitude. Also, Oxford & Cambridge universities. Not sure about St. Andrews but maybe Scarface above can confirm. From my time down in London, people would always refer to a trip "up to London" in terms of a night out, shopping or whatever. I'm stumped about the St Andrews one. I've never lived north of St Andrews so it has always been "up" to St Andrews. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I haven't (yet) been able to find a definitive explanation but apparently in the early railway timetables "Up" trains travelled towards London, while "Down" trains travelled away. The majority of rail lines radiated from the capital so you had to know which line to be on. Today, I also learned that grammatically, you're supposed to say "up to" whenever referring to a town more populous than your own. Never heard that one before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shotgun said: I haven't (yet) been able to find a definitive explanation but apparently in the early railway timetables "Up" trains travelled towards London, while "Down" trains travelled away. The majority of rail lines radiated from the capital so you had to know which line to be on. Today, I also learned that grammatically, you're supposed to say "up to" whenever referring to a town more populous than your own. Never heard that one before. It's almost as if the establishment is a bit London-centric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Shandon Par said: It's almost as if the establishment is a bit London-centric. I was taking it for granted that all of us here are middle-class English children living in the Edwardian era. Is that not the case? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Shotgun said: I was taking it for granted that all of us here are middle-class English children living in the Edwardian era. Is that not the case? One probably does not have to delve too deep into GN for that notion to be scuppered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 People from Ross Shire always say they're going 'up to Inverness' despite the fact that it's south of them. It does my dick in. Presumably it because they have to cross the black isle in which they go up a hill, completely oblivious to the fact that they come down said hill as Invergordon/Alness and Inverness are all at sea level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 In all my living in Scotland did I ever say I'd go up to London. It's fucking south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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