ajwffc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Much easier win than I expected - probably the worst Samoan team to face us in a very long time. Is this down to Samoans opting for the All Blacks instead of their own country?They have 18 players born in New Zealand or Australia and out of the 14 born in Samoa. Only 3 learned their rugby in Samoa with the rest getting developed by Kiwi and Australian sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 were lucky that Ireland (vs Russia) and Japan (vs Samoa) both have there third games before we play Russia, and Ireland play their last game against Samoa the day before we play Japan - I've no idea what happens if all 3 finish on 15 points - i am assuming points difference (as Ireland beat us, lost to Japan and we beat Japn?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, honestly united said: were lucky that Ireland (vs Russia) and Japan (vs Samoa) both have there third games before we play Russia, and Ireland play their last game against Samoa the day before we play Japan - I've no idea what happens if all 3 finish on 15 points - i am assuming points difference (as Ireland beat us, lost to Japan and we beat Japn?) Aye it would be points difference which means we need to run the score up on Russia. I can't see Ireland getting 15 though. They will get 16 unless the Russia game is Typhoon'd off then it will be 13. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Absolute scenes when Ireland v Russia is typhooned off and declared a draw then they lose to Samoa who learn how to tackle.How can it be? There is a roof on the stadium 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'd still expect Ireland to get two BP wins over Samoa and Russia, which would take them to 16. A Japan BP win over Samoa would mean we need a BP win over Russia, and then a BP win by more than 7 points over Japan. I'm not convinced the Japan BP against Samoa is as much of a given as most are making out. If Scotland weren't involved in this, I'd think it was absolutely brilliant entertainment, but it just gives me the fear that we could go out with 3 BP wins because we shat the bed against Ireland, and they shat the bed against Japan. Come on Scotland, come on Samoa, come on the typhoon.We don't necessarily need a bonus point win against Japan based on your scenario. A 4 0 return would be exactly same as your 5 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 How can it be? There is a roof on the stadiumIf there’s a typhoon there won’t be any transportation to the stadium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank22 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Cheers for all of the discussion on this guys, I've had some of these scenarios rattling about in my head, along with the knowledge that it's Scotland we're talking about here so we'll likely find some obscure way of fucking it up. So typhoon for Ireland's next match seems the best option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Much easier win than I expected - probably the worst Samoan team to face us in a very long time. Is this down to Samoans opting for the All Blacks instead of their own country?Brief Summary The SRU (their one as opposed to ours) is either corrupt or incompetent but probably both The IRB have chucked lots of development money at it but it’s unclear where it went. Players don’t always get paid and tournament preparation is clearly inadequate. Some players have quit the national teamThe Samoan Government should really investigate but as the head the of the SRU is also the Prime Minister that seems unlikely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I presume we will put our full second 15 put against Russia considering we only have a 4 day turnaround. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Jamie Ritchie what a player. Quite clearly our best 6 these days but unfortunately until Watson is fit he's our only real option at 7. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Probably because they want to sell away shirts. I just saw a bit of today's game and immediately thought of you when I saw what kits they were wearing! Why thank you. I know, I’m a moaning faced auld git about this kit thing, but really, it’s a World Cup, how hard can it be not to have two teams in blue shirts? Anyway, well played Scotland, did what they had to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It wasn't intended as a dig. If Scotland get through, it will likely be New Zealand. Will Scotland play in their virtually black top against the All Blacks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: It wasn't intended as a dig. If Scotland get through, it will likely be New Zealand. Will Scotland play in their virtually black top against the All Blacks? Better not, my blood pressure couldn’t take it. Still recovering from watching Canberra Raiders v South Sydney with both teams wearing green(ish) shirts. Grrrrrrr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieda Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Bottom line is that if we're genuinely worried about beating russia and Japan then we should hope we dont as we'll be embarrassed by NZ. Absolutely no reason we dont BP Russia then beat Japan by 7+ even if we cant score 4 tries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Swarley said: 11 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Did anybody else see a Japanese bloke in the crowd with a 2007 Hearts jersey SJC? Not guilty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) If my calculations are correct, if we beat Russia with a BP and Japan fail to achieve a BP win over Samoa then any win over Japan will do for us, except for some weird scenario where we win without a BP but they manage to get 2 BP. If Japan do manage a 4-try win over Samoa then we'd need to do one of the following two things against Japan: 1. Win and stop them scoring a bonus point 2. Win with a bonus point and stop them scoring 2 bonus points All of the above assumed Ireland get to 16 and top the pool. Edited September 30, 2019 by Donathan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Brief Summary The SRU (their one as opposed to ours) is either corrupt or incompetent but probably both Mainly the first part with a little of the 2nd They currently receive (as do the other Pacific sides) $10 million a year in funding from World Rugby. World Rugby are all so supplying most of the funding for their youth program. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 REFEREE APPOINTMENTS ROUND 2 Friday, October 4 Leinster Rugby v Ospreys Rugby – KO 19:35 RDS Arena, Dublin Referee: Stuart Berry (SARU, 25th Championship appearance) AR1: Stuart Gaffigan (IRFU) AR2: Mark Patton (IRFU) TMO: Brian MacNeice (IRFU) Live on eir Sport 1, Premier Sports 2, DAZN, SuperSport 2, TG4, Deferred: S4C – Sunday, 16:10 Glasgow Warriors v Scarlets – KO 19:35 Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 116th Championship appearance) AR1: Ben Blain (SRU) AR2: Chris Busby (IRFU) TMO: Simon MacDowell (IRFU) Live on eir Sport 2, Premier Sports 1, DAZN Deferred: S4C – Monday, 22:05 Saturday, October 5 Isuzu Southern Kings v Munster Rugby – KO 15:00 (SA) / 16:00 (UK) Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth Referee: Dan Jones (WRU, 26th Championship appearance) AR1: Mike Adamson (SRU) AR2: Paul Mente (SARU) TMO: Christie Du Preez (SARU) Live on eir Sport 1 Premier Sports 2, DAZN Super Sport 2 Zebre Rugby Club v Dragons – KO 17:00 (ITA) / 18:00 (UK) Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi, Parma Referee: Sean Gallagher (IRFU, 15th Championship appearance) AR1: Andrea Piardi (FIR) AR2: Johnny Erskine (IRFU) TMO: Leo Colgan (IRFU) Live on eir Sport 2, FreeSports, DAZN Toyota Cheetahs v Ulster Rugby – KO 17:15 (SA) / 18:15 (UK) Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 77th Championship appearance) AR1: Craig Evans (WRU) AR2: Griffin Colby (SARU) TMO: Johan Greeff (SARU) Live on eir Sport 1, Premier Sports 2, DAZN, Super Sport 2 Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh – KO 17:15 Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff Referee: Frank Murphy (IRFU, 25th Championship appearance) AR1: Ben Whitehouse (WRU) AR2: Rob O’Sullivan (IRFU) TMO: Olly Hodges (IRFU) Live on eir Sport 2, S4C, DAZN Connacht Rugby v Benetton Rugby – KO 19:35 The Sportsground, Galway Referee: Rasta Rasivhenge (SARU, 1st Championship appearance) AR1: Sam Grove-White (SRU) AR2: Ian Kenny (SRU) TMO: Charles Samson (SRU) Live on TG4 (exclusive), Premier Sports 1, DAZN, Super Sport 2 Read more at https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/referee-appointments/#hVVIo503Qb6iAbCv.99 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Impressed by this ref so far, correctly picking up on French offsides rather than ignoring them as many refs do for Tier 1 nations. The US are looking a lot better than they did against England, but their missed tackle count is still going to result in a comfortable France win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Now I’ve said that he’s shat out of a yellow card for it in the red zone. Only 12-6 after 30 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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