19QOS19 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I shit you not, the Mrs is just off the phone to her mother who's just in with the dog. Her dog was attacked there by a dog not on a lead. What the actual f**k is wrong with these idiots? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. Alli said: So just dogs, or are cat owners held to account when they're ripping multiple forms of animals to shreds? There are numerous posts on this very forum where folk celebrate cats tearing other animals to bits. Anyone who keeps a pet at home is responsible for it. If your cat goes next door and damages the property or kills their pet you are responsible for it. Cats generally attack wild animals like mice or birds and thus nobody is there to claim damages, they also tend not to rip the faces off of small children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Cats generally attack wild animals like mice or birds and thus nobody is there to claim damages, they also tend not to rip the faces off of small children. Oh Rly? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: So just dogs, or are cat owners held to account when they're ripping multiple forms of animals to shreds? There are numerous posts on this very forum where folk celebrate cats tearing other animals to bits. I think the killing of the mice is fair enough, got an old house and before I got the cat they were getting in, the shredding of the garden birds, I hate that, and if I see it, will put a stop to it. Regret posting the pics up and wont do it again. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I'm not sure it's fair to have the dog destroyed. But they should absolutely be taken off the owner and that fuckwit shouldn't be allowed to own any animals. A good percentage of dogs would destroy a cat if given the chance, the same way cats destroy other animals. But as an owner you should know how your dog is around other animals and ensure it has a lead on when out walking. I assume, Diego that they were out walking and the cat hadn't got into their garden while the dogs were out? Her house backs onto a small park with a children's play area and that was where it happened. If, as the vet says, these dogs have previous, then it's pretty negligent of the owner to let them off the leash in a public area without muzzles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 This... https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/man-charged-after-dog-dies-19207551 Vet should be saying something if there are dangerous dogs on the loose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Maybe one for the Cycling thread, but how easy is it to remove and reattach the rear wheel of a geared bike? One of the smaller Ranters has a rear wheel puncture, and I've never removed a rear wheel before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Not difficult. Just have to flip chain off gears as that holds it on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Her house backs onto a small park with a children's play area and that was where it happened. If, as the vet says, these dogs have previous, then it's pretty negligent of the owner to let them off the leash in a public area without muzzles.Aye, he's a total c**t then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Boghead ranter said: Maybe one for the Cycling thread, but how easy is it to remove and reattach the rear wheel of a geared bike? One of the smaller Ranters has a rear wheel puncture, and I've never removed a rear wheel before. Pish easy. Is it a nut n bolt? Or the newer lever type? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Are we at a point as a society where dogs ripping cats apart is/can lead to criminal proceedings against their owner? Yes. I've seen such events prosecuted in the Sheriff Court under the Dangerous Dogs Act. Which I believe has been on the statute book for nearly 30 years (and is a badly drafted piece of legislation no one has got round to repealing/redrafting) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I think the difference in law is that dogs are trainable and cats aren't therefore owners should be able to keep control of a trained dog. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I think the difference in law is that dogs are trainable and cats aren't therefore owners should be able to keep control of a trained dog. Cats can't be trained to the same standard but they can certainly be trained. My papa* used to get his cat to sit for a treat. I was gobsmacked the first time I witnessed it [emoji38] * f**k yerselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, tamthebam said: I think the difference in law is that dogs are trainable and cats aren't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Mr. Alli said: Thank you Lord Carloway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, tamthebam said: I think the difference in law is that dogs are trainable and cats aren't therefore owners should be able to keep control of a trained dog. Up to a point that's true, but I have had a lot of cats and some of them can be 'trained' to some extent - at least they can be taught where not to shit for example. That said, I've not been able to train them where to shit. We have 4 wild cats at the moment. They are excellent hunters and all the neighbours are more than happy that they keep the rat/mice population down even if they do shit in their gardens - swings and roundabouts. There are also stray dogs, 2 or 3, and they all eat at our place. Interestingly, they (the dogs) sit across the road patiently waiting for the cats to feed then move in for whatever is left only once the cats have finished. At feeding time we have about 8 cats so I'm guessing the dogs realise they are outnumbered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I know Mr Alli is very protective of his dog(s?) and so he should be as they are part of his family, but we're not really comparing cats and dogs in terms of level of owner responsibility are we?Part of the reason cats are so popular is, I'd imagine, because they come with less of a burden of responsibility. No amount of whataboutery can get away from that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, tamthebam said: I think the difference in law is that dogs are trainable and cats aren't therefore owners should be able to keep control of a trained dog. There's no difference in law. You're responsible for your pet whether it's a cat, dog, snake or bearded dragon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Are we at a point as a society where dogs ripping cats apart is/can lead to criminal proceedings against their owner? Yes. I believe we are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, hk blues said: We have 4 wild cats at the moment. They are excellent hunters and all the neighbours are more than happy that they keep the rat/mice population down even if they do shit in their gardens - swings and roundabouts. There are also stray dogs, 2 or 3, and they all eat at our place. Interestingly, they (the dogs) sit across the road patiently waiting for the cats to feed then move in for whatever is left only once the cats have finished. At feeding time we have about 8 cats so I'm guessing the dogs realise they are outnumbered. Everyday life in Dundee but you'll miss it when you go back to the Philippines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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