renton Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said: There's no doubt that Vaughan will now always be viewed as susceptible to another ACL injury. Maybe the last two surgical procedures have been aimed at strengthening as well as repairing - there was some suggestion of that. However, once he's fit enough for full training, with no adverse effects, he'll bedeemed ready for selection, albeit with short stints to start with. I can't see that once he's fully back in the first eleven he'll be holding anything back on the pitch, either he's cured or not. The outcome is a gamble, which I think everyone accepts. Yeah, I certainly wouldn't expect him to play cautiously, but suspect if the club wants to get the most out of him they should be cautious about selecting him in the short term (unless our start is so bad, there is a major flap and we end up chucking him in desperation) And yeah, still no guarentee that he doesn't have a re-occurence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heid_The_Baw Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 6 hours ago, renton said: Can he play CB? I'm more wondering why the club are excited by signing a back room guy never even heard of? Welcome to the club and all that, but...... excited? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBJ Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Is David Goodwillie still on the payroll? Surely that's been put to bed by now, can't believe he'd still be receiving £1,500 a week for doing nothing. Haven't seen anything anywhere to suggest he's been released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, JBJ said: Is David Goodwillie still on the payroll? Surely that's been put to bed by now, can't believe he'd still be receiving £1,500 a week for doing nothing. Haven't seen anything anywhere to suggest he's been released. Your guess is as good as ours, club haven't announced/spoken about it since Sim's meltdown interview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtounlaud Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Langtounlaud said: On the plus side he is a centre back, 6 foot 4 and has played 11 games, in the second half of last season, in English League One which you would have to say is a much better standard than the Scottish Championship. On the flip side, he is only 18 with limited career playing time so another gamble alongside Nolan and not the experienced addition I think we need in there. Fingers crossed he turns out to be a gem, if it goes through. Despite the criticism Murray has taken over the inactivity in the transfer market, it’s clearly not for the lack of trying. Seems to be casting the net pretty far and wide to get what he needs, let’s hope he manages to get a couple over the line of the required standard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, renton said: Yeah, I certainly wouldn't expect him to play cautiously, but suspect if the club wants to get the most out of him they should be cautious about selecting him in the short term (unless our start is so bad, there is a major flap and we end up chucking him in desperation) And yeah, still no guarentee that he doesn't have a re-occurence. I think once he's played himself in he'll go for it - it'll be an all or nothing thing. We have to be optimistic; despite the uncertainty I think he'll be fine in the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, R.R.FC said: On the plus side he is a centre back, 6 foot 4 and has played 11 games, in the second half of last season, in English League One which you would have to say is a much better standard than the Scottish Championship. On the flip side, he is only 18 with limited career playing time so another gamble alongside Nolan and not the experienced addition I think we need in there. Fingers crossed he turns out to be a gem, if it goes through. Despite the criticism Murray has taken over the inactivity in the transfer market, it’s clearly not for the lack of trying. Seems to be casting the net pretty far and wide to get what he needs, let’s hope he manages to get a couple over the line of the required standard. If he does sign hopefully he does well, agree not the experience we need imo but looks a unit and played at a decent enough level, any striker we bring in will probably be the same , just got to keep our fingers crossed they have enough about them and good character , big gamble from Murray this squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadji Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Raith_Raver said: You and facts don't seem to get on much. His first ACL was in 2015, the next in 2019 and the other nine months later, and the present one two years after that. That's good enough for you to call "being thrown strait(sic) back in" ... Me and fact dont seem to get on ffs are you ok ? 9 months is around the time it would take to get the green light to get back playing from an ACL injury so that is the exact time am talking about when he was "Thrown strait back in" after playing against peterhead then away against forfar a few days later. Im arguing a lad on his 4th serious ACL injury should be monitored, to do everything possible to give him the chance to make a come back. the exact opposite of what you said. " And I don't see how we can treat Vaughan with extreme care - either he's fully fit to play or not, another ACL happens or it doesnt." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Really enjoying the fact there’s some debate about whether or not we should maybe be a bit cautious about how we use someone who’s in the process of coming back from a fourth ACL injury. I’d probably say yes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, McGuigan1978 said: Really enjoying the fact there’s some debate about whether or not we should maybe be a bit cautious about how we use someone who’s in the process of coming back from a fourth ACL injury. I’d probably say yes. All I'm saying is we can't be cautious forever, once he's fully fit playing 90 minutes that's it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC1989 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 All I'm saying is we can't be cautious forever, once he's fully fit playing 90 minutes that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Vaughan will have to be used sparingly. He plays at 100 mph amd twists and turns all over the place its just the player he is. That said there's no way we can be risking him.ayimg on some ploughed field in a cup game for example. The other issue is he may need longer to recover from games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, RRFC1989 said: You sure it shouldn't be RRFC2009 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, pub car king said: Vaughan will have to be used sparingly Aye, leave him out of games against Arbroath, they seemed to want him to stop playing for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said: All I'm saying is we can't be cautious forever, once he's fully fit playing 90 minutes that's it. I think I would disagree with this. If he's played a full 90 minutes he shouldn't start the next game. Kid gloves treatment I'm afraid, and maybe Murray feels the same way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Someone who has had 4 acl injuries after being deemed fit should not be protected from it happening again and is capable of playing 90 minutes every week? Is that seriously the argument here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBJ Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Raithie said: Your guess is as good as ours, club haven't announced/spoken about it since Sim's meltdown interview. Just spoke with a pal who knows the family….. still being paid 1.5k a week with no sign of resolution. That’s madness surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JBJ said: Just spoke with a pal who knows the family….. still being paid 1.5k a week with no sign of resolution. That’s madness surely? Unless we can find a club dumb enough to take him then there’s only two options, pay him his wage to do bugger all or pay him his full wage as a lump sum. He’s unlikely to settle for anything less than 100% as his career is completely finished in the game. I’m guessing we can’t afford option 2. Edited August 3, 2022 by San Starko Rover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanStarko Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: Unless we can find a club dumb enough to take him then there’s only two options, pay him his wage to do bugger all or pay him his full wage as a lump sum. He’s unlikely to settle for anything less than 100% as his career is completely finished in the game. Even offering his full wage as a lump sum he could still turn round and say no as it would out better for him to not to take the lump sum. He's well within his rights to take every single penny he can get from our idiot board. Edited August 3, 2022 by SanStarko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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