Varna Rover Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, BPM said: So who wanted Jamieson? the acting manager 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher brash Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 David Healy has played a blinder and made a total arse of the club imo , Clearly used the Rovers to get another deal / better deal . Why apply for the job firstly ? Secondly agree a deal and within 24 hours changes his mind ,I’m particular not fussed one way or another if he became manager however it’s now left the Rovers in a difficult position in terms of moving forward . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 10 minutes ago, SanStarko said: “We had agreed a deal. But between Saturday night and Sunday morning he changed his mind. Who the f**k sent him the video of the Ayr game? We're all trying to find the guy who did this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 8 minutes ago, CountryBumpkin said: This is nonsense as it's a methodology of work within a role and not some rare skill only possessed by a few. Everyone can adapt to new methodology within their jobs if they're willing Yes they can but if you have little input into decisions, which could easily cost you your job then it could put you off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanStarko Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, itzdrk said: We're all trying to find the guy who did this It's clearly been that weird too low down camera view that's changed his mind. Nothing else...surely. Edited August 26 by SanStarko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 7 minutes ago, SanStarko said: Pretty sure for most of this summer the only input McPake has had is going to the board begging for them to let him sign anybody and them just laughing at him. That’s different though. He at least has the input. I strikes me Barrowman and Potter run Raith’s football dept and what they say goes and any coach coming in will have to do as they are told. No wonder people are getting cold feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Healy knocking back perennial trophy wins and European football to go to deepest darkest Fife. I'm as baffled as I was when Leven decided to stay at a rejuvenated Aberdeen! Can't be long now until you pass our timeframe farce of waiting nearly 5 weeks only to announce Mark Kerr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varna Rover Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, BPM said: That’s different though. He at least has the input. I strikes me Barrowman and Potter run Raith’s football dept and what they say goes and any coach coming in will have to do as they are told. No wonder people are getting cold feet. prove it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 10 minutes ago, Varna Rover said: the acting manager So looking at the timing Healy must have rubber stamped it if the manager chooses who comes or goes? What an arse of this Barrowman is making. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Varna Rover said: prove it Prove what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varna Rover Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, BPM said: Prove what? you just made a statement so again prove it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BPM said: Not at this level they don’t. You telling me Scott Brown has little input into signings? Or Martindale, or McCabe, or McPake, or Doolan. Idiotic set up which we know to our cost. 31 minutes ago, Wardy said: It’s been well documented that Murray did have an input in the transfers, it was up to Potter to go out and pursue them and attract them to the club. Every player that we signed were wanted by Murray. I’m pretty confident of that. What Wardy says is the situation that Scott Brown operates under at Ayr. We have a very similar setup where the head coach identifies what he wants, a new contract for someone expiring or a midfielder who is good at scorpion kicks and it is up to Graeme Mathie to work with the recruitment team to go get it done. Bullen had final say on the targets that had been identified and Scott Brown does too. Ian Murray will undoubtedly have been the same. There's some rampant Da attitude that because the head coach isn't negotiating contracts and bidding for players that they are somehow forced to work with players they don't want when it's really intended so the head coach can focus on coaching the team. Rhys McCabe takes whatever Jackie McNama tells him to take TBF. Edited August 26 by itzdrk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18BAIRN76 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) I can't really put my finger on it, but something doesn't sit right with me when I hear Barrowman speak. Appreciate I'm not a Rovers fan so am purely talking from the outside looking in. This judgment is based on very little but vibes, so is ultimately worthless, but there's just something a little bit untrustworthy about him I can't quite pinpoint. His 20 minute interview where he used a lot of words to say heehaw likely didn't help. While you might legitimately ask what qualification I have to make such a judgement, I was proudly ahead of the curve in thinking Gary Holt was a c**t, something I wear as a badge of honour. Edited August 26 by 18BAIRN76 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 7 minutes ago, Varna Rover said: you just made a statement so again prove it In fairness, we’re still waiting on your links to the Andrew Barrowman story that the new manager has to stay in Kirkcaldy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, McGuigan1978 said: In fairness, we’re still waiting on your links to the Andrew Barrowman story that the new manager has to stay in Kirkcaldy Would explain Healy getting cold feet.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, renton said: Would explain Healy getting cold feet.... Wonder if he spoke to Murray over the weekend 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 11 minutes ago, Varna Rover said: you just made a statement so again prove it I don’t need to prove anything. I am giving you an opinion on what I see from the outside looking in. Barrowman and Potter run the place like they did at Kelty. They just have a bigger train set now and much more scrutiny. They have messed this us. Very few, even Raith fans, can deny it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryBumpkin Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 20 minutes ago, BPM said: Not at this level they don’t. You telling me Scott Brown has little input into signings? Or Martindale, or McCabe, or McPake, or Doolan. Idiotic set up which we know to our cost. All managers and head coaches have an input into transfers, they ask for players, tell the relevant people what they want this player to do for them in the position and once a list of targets is drawn up, the manager gets to review them (or input directly into a specific player if possible) and gets the final say. That happens at every club, because even the other managers you've listed, hell even McGlynn doesn't do it all on his own. For McGlynn, the aforementioned relevant people will at first be the scouts and then whoever he liaises with at board level to sanction the signing and hopefully deal with the contract (don't trust McGlynn to detail contracts, they're quite bad). At Raith, its Potter who does that work between Manager and scouting network, he also can recommend players, but its the manager who has the final say, because they're players he has to work with. 19 minutes ago, BPM said: So who wanted Jamieson? The club did, a player like Jamieson (a forward with pace to get in behind), was wanted all summer by Murray too. There is no reason to suggest that priority changes. Its also not a permanent signing and can be rescinded if the new manager favours other players, but Jamieson is a good player to bring in. 8 minutes ago, BPM said: That’s different though. He at least has the input. I strikes me Barrowman and Potter run Raith’s football dept and what they say goes and any coach coming in will have to do as they are told. No wonder people are getting cold feet. By "it strikes me" do you mean "I was hit on the head and this is the best I can work out these days"? The football department is overseen by Allan Halliday, Director of Football Operations and the manager is facilitated by John Potter, Technical Director and Cameron (Assistant Manager). The Manager, or FIrst Team coach, will work to their job description, as will everyone else. The club is overseen by Barrowman, who is CEO. As for Healy, I suspect its gone one of two ways, either he was angling for a new deal, even though he applied for the job and agreed terms or he told his wife, she googled Kirkcaldy and vetoed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantene proV Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 20 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Healy knocking back perennial trophy wins and European football to go to deepest darkest Fife. I'm as baffled as I was when Leven decided to stay at a rejuvenated Aberdeen! Can't be long now until you pass our timeframe farce of waiting nearly 5 weeks only to announce Mark Kerr. Whats he doing with himself nowadays? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varna Rover Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, BPM said: I don’t need to prove anything. I am giving you an opinion on what I see from the outside looking in. Barrowman and Potter run the place like they did at Kelty. They just have a bigger train set now and much more scrutiny. They have messed this us. Very few, even Raith fans, can deny it. in otherwords your shit stirring and trolling this site. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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