Bairnardo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Schnitzel von crumb, with a cock like a thumb.Please dont ruin Hairy McLairy by applying your seedy wee mind to it TYVM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) The precursor to that video Imagine living in that environment, having parents behaving like that. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. Maybe I've had a sheltered life. Edited April 19, 2021 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: 19 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Schnitzel von crumb, with a cock like a thumb. Please dont ruin Hairy McLairy by applying your seedy wee mind to it TYVM Hercules Morse was the complete opposite but Im neigh going to say any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Imagine living in that environment, having parents behaving like that. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. Maybe I've had a sheltered life. Fairly common behaviour in a scheme. I say fairly common, there probably aren't too many folk lobbing chainsaws into their neighbours home, but on street scuffles and warring neighbours are par for the course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Fairly common behaviour in a scheme. I say fairly common, there probably aren't too many folk lobbing chainsaws into their neighbours home, but on street scuffles and warring neighbours are par for the course. Yeah not to accuse ICTChris of naivety as it would be extremely unfair, but sadly this type of behaviour is never far below the surface in the average socially depressed housing scheme. That's part of the reason why it's self perpetuating, the kids live through it and take that edgy stress of daily life into their adulthood and the cycle continues. These places come with an inbuilt tension and lack of feeling of safety that causes permanent effects and changes in the brain/hormones. The Glasgow Effect study had some great info in this area, but I'm sure other socio economic studies are available. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) I probably am being naive but I still find it pretty jarring to see people behave like that. I wasn't brought up in an area like that but have lived places like that in my life and didn't really experience it. I'm lucky I guess. As Sweet Pete says the cycle repeats for children who see violence and aggression as a part of life or to resolve disputes and situations. Even if that isn't what happens in that house being exposed to it in the environment will have an impact. As I get older I appreciate the environment my parents raised me in more and more. You don't realise it at the time but I was raised in a calm, peaceful safe house and that's priceless. Edited April 19, 2021 by ICTChris 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I probably am being naive but I still find it pretty jarring to see people behave like that. I wasn't brought up in an area like that but have lived places like that in my life and didn't really experience it. I'm lucky I guess. As Sweet Pete says the cycle repeats for children who see violence and aggression as a part of life or to resolve disputes and situations. Even if that isn't what happens in that house being exposed to it in the environment will have an impact. As I get older I appreciate the environment my parents raised me in more and more. You don't realise it at the time but I was raised in a calm, peaceful safe house and that's priceless. I've had a hard time adjusting in adulthood to a middle class lifestyle, which I worked my way into and which is all my kids have known. Having come from below the poverty line in a deprived, unsafe scheme, I didn't realise until relatively recently that it's not "normal" to be on edge all the time, that there isn't violence or problems lurking around every corner and that these subconscious pre-programmed safety mechanisms that I developed as a child are not compatible with my life as an adult. Basically the fight, flight, freeze mechanism of the amygdala works overtime in people from these backgrounds and means they're producing adrenaline and cortisol much more than is healthy, leading to all sorts of stress related side effects and destructive behaviours. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: I probably am being naive but I still find it pretty jarring to see people behave like that. I wasn't brought up in an area like that but have lived places like that in my life and didn't really experience it. I'm lucky I guess. As Sweet Pete says the cycle repeats for children who see violence and aggression as a part of life or to resolve disputes and situations. Even if that isn't what happens in that house being exposed to it in the environment will have an impact. As I get older I appreciate the environment my parents raised me in more and more. You don't realise it at the time but I was raised in a calm, peaceful safe house and that's priceless. That environment is not a place to raise kids it's like when you see wee kids swear and you think it's quite cute but I wonder how often parents are telling a toddler or primary school wean to f**k off or shut the f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, 101 said: That environment is not a place to raise kids it's like when you see wee kids swear and you think it's quite cute but I wonder how often parents are telling a toddler or primary school wean to f**k off or shut the f**k up. My kids were in a school in Ferguslie, sadly the language above directed at the kids was common. And that was just me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 My mate worked in the Scotmid at the top of Easter Road and a couple came in with a toddler, who was crying or making a noise and the dad said to the mum “Shut that c**t up”, in reference to, you assume, his child. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I've had a hard time adjusting in adulthood to a middle class lifestyle, which I worked my way into and which is all my kids have known. Having come from below the poverty line in a deprived, unsafe scheme, I didn't realise until relatively recently that it's not "normal" to be on edge all the time, that there isn't violence or problems lurking around every corner and that these subconscious pre-programmed safety mechanisms that I developed as a child are not compatible with my life as an adult. Basically the fight, flight, freeze mechanism of the amygdala works overtime in people from these backgrounds and means they're producing adrenaline and cortisol much more than is healthy, leading to all sorts of stress related side effects and destructive behaviours.For purely personal reasons, I think this is one of the most interesting and thought-provoking posts I've seen on P&B.Thanks Pete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 My missus just shared with me the fact that on the set of The Princess Bride in 1987, Andre The Giant hit out with a 16 second fart that brought production to a standstill. Someone asked if he was okay: "I am now..." Don't see that bit of movie trivia ever finding its way into a pub quiz, but there you go. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: For purely personal reasons, I think this is one of the most interesting and thought-provoking posts I've seen on P&B. Thanks Pete. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Sweet Pete said: I've had a hard time adjusting in adulthood to a middle class lifestyle, which I worked my way into and which is all my kids have known. Having come from below the poverty line in a deprived, unsafe scheme, I didn't realise until relatively recently that it's not "normal" to be on edge all the time, that there isn't violence or problems lurking around every corner and that these subconscious pre-programmed safety mechanisms that I developed as a child are not compatible with my life as an adult. Basically the fight, flight, freeze mechanism of the amygdala works overtime in people from these backgrounds and means they're producing adrenaline and cortisol much more than is healthy, leading to all sorts of stress related side effects and destructive behaviours. I'll tell you what's worse, having to go back to it. Fortunately I've found my way out of that particular hole again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Well, did a Facebook fundraiser for the school, $250 and I’d dye my hair!Eek! 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sweet Pete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'll tell you what's worse, having to go back to it. Fortunately I've found my way out of that particular hole again. Christ, sarn't, that's a sore yin right enough. Glad to hear you're coming out the other side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sweet Pete said: Christ, sarn't, that's a sore yin right enough. Glad to hear you're coming out the other side. In the past again now, but you never really know what's in store. It wasn't great for the kids who weren't used to it and it still affects one more than the other. That's where all my guilt went. I've got none left for anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz_the_Squirrel Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The idea of being ‘on edge’ a lot is linked to what is known as toxic stress. As Pete identifies, it has connotations for fight/flight/freeze. Ever met someone who ‘goes from 0-100’ in terms of aggression? That’s often about toxic stress (and alcohol makes it more apparent). Anyway, the impact of raising kids in such circumstances has lifelong consequences. I’d recommend this video for starters: Too long didn’t watch? Adverse experiences in childhood (most of which are disproportionately experienced in communities like the one shown in that horrible video) are linked to poor health outcomes including increased strokes, heart attacks etc. And no, it’s not because people from marginalised backgrounds drink or smoke more. We need to give poverty the heave-ho. It’s a political choice not to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, throbber said: What exactly do you mean when you talk about your middle class lifestyle? In what context? I referenced struggles I have/had trying to alter my ingrained subconscious mindset that made it difficult for me to settle, enjoy things, fully invest myself for fear of having it all taken away. I'm not sure what you're asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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