GeordieBairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 "Aye son, principles are all well and good, but there's a game of fitba on".Principles[emoji23]. Id rather my son went and supported Falkirk than turn round and support one of the ugly sisters cause his da never liked the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 If your son turns out a OF supporter maybe I'm not the bad parent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieBairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 If your son turns out a OF supporter maybe I'm not the bad parent.exactly my point. he wont turn out an old firm supporter because hes enjoying going to watch Falkirk week in week out and my hate of the board isnt going to stop him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Well that's good to know. I take my boy to his own football team, to St Johnstone or Dundee United on occasion. Even if I never went back to TFS he would still never support the OF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, JulioBairn said: No it’s mine. I’m suggesting the most important thing in any deal for a player is money. Mr Dust is suggesting things like the level they will be playing at come into consideration before money. I confess that I haven't read every word of your debate but what you say here is the gist that I got. So, as far as I can make out, he's suggesting that the guy came back from China on less money to play at a better level, therefore, money was not his most important consideration. Apologies if I've misinterpreted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieBairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Well that's good to know. I take my boy to his own football team, to St Johnstone or Dundee United on occasion. Even if I never went back to TFS he would still never support the OF. fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Been following Falkirk for 10 years now and on One F or here for most of that. Every year, every single year there's been people saying they're not going to games in protest at this, that or the other. Some folk are really good at finding excuses for not being there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: I confess that I haven't read every word of your debate but what you say here is the gist that I got. So, as far as I can make out, he's suggesting that the guy came back from China on less money to play at a better level, therefore, money was not his most important consideration. Apologies if I've misinterpreted. Yes he has used that example to support the claim that money is not the most important factor. I guess in that particular case he is probably right but the only reason for being in China in the first place was money . If you want out of China then a pay cut is inevitable. I think it’s fair to say a massive majority go where they are being paid the most money regardless of other factors. I also think it’s fair to say that money becomes more important when guys are being paid hundreds of pounds a week (and have bills to pay) as opposed to hundreds of thousands a week (and could buy a new house off every pay cheque). Yet even at the top level I am struggling to think of many examples where players aren’t motivated by money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Been following Falkirk for 10 years now and on One F or here for most of that. Every year, every single year there's been people saying they're not going to games in protest at this, that or the other. Some folk are really good at finding excuses for not being there. ^^^ just wants two hours out the house every fortnight -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Do people really refuse to take their children to football then tell strangers on an Internet forum about it ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 hours ago, JulioBairn said: Money will always be the deciding factor in where players go. 13 minutes ago, JulioBairn said: I think it’s fair to say a massive majority go where they are being paid the most money regardless of other factors. I will sign out now without nit picking other points you made and there is still google to see many players/coaches and managers who have chosen various factors than just money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 FFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, JulioBairn said: Yes he has used that example to support the claim that money is not the most important factor. I guess in that particular case he is probably right but the only reason for being in China in the first place was money . If you want out of China then a pay cut is inevitable. I think it’s fair to say a massive majority go where they are being paid the most money regardless of other factors. I also think it’s fair to say that money becomes more important when guys are being paid hundreds of pounds a week (and have bills to pay) as opposed to hundreds of thousands a week (and could buy a new house off every pay cheque). Yet even at the top level I am struggling to think of many examples where players aren’t motivated by money. Well, when broken down, I've got to say that I think you're actually agreeing with each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relegator Ritchie Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Dear God...some people truly deserve the Club we have right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ShaggerG said: Well, when broken down, I've got to say that I think you're actually agreeing with each other. Of course money is the driving factor for a professional football player. Followed by playing at the highest level your skill set can be competitive at. Would think winning trophies, playing for the team you support and representing your country would be looked on as a bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula Bairn Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: It ain't "sanctimonious pish" if someone is accusing people of strengthening your opponents by only going to away games. People have made their choice this season. I respect people who chose to go and they should have the good grace to have respect the other way. If we are in a league 1 next season it will be a lot more not renewing sadly. Not sure where you are getting 15k from. 500 less at an average £190 is a lot more than that. The AGM. I was surprised at how low it was but given how busy the south stand is it seems about right. Also not that many of us are paying at the cash gate. Agree there will be a big drop off next season if we don't go up but that's only natural and won't be down to any sort of protest. FWIW, I'm absolutely scunnered with the club and honestly thought I'd seen it all before now - I just don't think staying away this Saturday will have any impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Like lots on here I’m pretty hacked off with the Board but the current BOD are just the current custodians of FFC and, hopefully, whilst Directors and shareholders come and go, FFC, the company will continue. Therefore, to me, I can’t see the point in withholding support as things will change for the better, albeit it might take time. Everyone to their own opinion but really, we need all the support we can get and, realistically a few dissenters makes no difference. Ive had a meeting with Gary Deans and am impressed but, obviously, time will tell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The bestest fans are the ones that don't support the team obviously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPar Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: realistically a few dissenters makes no difference. You're right. And that's the issue. Because there are countless posters on here who profess to be desperate, absolutely choking to see the back of the MSG and their lackeys on the board. And then, in the very next sentence, go on to criticize those supporters who have taken the one course of action which might, if enough others had the balls to do it, result in some kind of tangible change they claim to desire so much. Park all this "real fan" bollocks. They are customers of a business whose owners openly, nakedly despise them. And they've exercised their right as a customer to stop funding that business. It's really not a difficult concept. And yet they are the ones whose credentials as a "real fan" are being called into question? If only there were more like them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Puddefoot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 It's easier to boycott if you don't live locally therefore not attending the games regularly anyway. Some fans see more games on ffctv. Results followers rather than fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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