Shadwell Dog Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, keithgy said: More cash for us,are Shire still at TFS The shire are still there so qp will be elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: The shire are still there so qp will be elsewhere. I hope this doesn't, you know, threaten their promotion. That would be terrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbairn Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Well, all I can say is that MR is a Falkirk boy who attended Bainsford Primary. I was in the same year as his older brother David and the dad was the manager at the Clydesdale Bank in Larbert, I think. Means nowt. I went to Langlees Primary and half of the lads there supported Sevco Part 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zbairn said: Means nowt. I went to Langlees Primary and half of the lads there supported Sevco Part 1. I don’t think the Langlees Rangers lads invested serious cash in their football club. In addition to his shares (basically a gift)he has given substantial loans as and when needed and has written off part of those loans. You may not like MR or SA but they have put in substantial amounts of cash into the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbairn Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I don’t think the Langlees Rangers lads invested serious cash in their football club. In addition to his shares (basically a gift)he has given substantial loans as and when needed and has written off part of those loans. You may not like MR or SA but they have put in substantial amounts of cash into the club. I didn’t say I didn’t like him. What I was alluding to is that just because you come from Bainsford, it doesn’t mean you support Falkirk. From my dealings with both they are both very personable people. I would say that MR is not a huge football fan though. SA is FFC through and through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Next manager markets, especially at our level, are so illiquid that a couple of small bets can massively move prices. He may be our next manager but it wouldn't surprise if that was McBookie trying to drum up some action during a slow period with little football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, MrDust said: If you think Gary Dean's or any previous chairman has any decision or serious influence since Ritchie then ok. All of them have been puppets, Dean's may have been more vocal and producing key words better than previous but you can't see his strings. The chairmen/women have been there to take the shit our MSG have put them in due to their decision making not the chairpersons. Gary Deans may have been an MSG appointment but the way the board is structured now means that even S and M can’t have a say in how the club is run. The constitution of the board was changed so that S and M can’t even sell their shares without board approval. The people running the club at the moment are those on the board, not S and M. Edited May 21, 2021 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, lanky_ffc said: Next manager markets, especially at our level, are so illiquid that a couple of small bets can massively move prices. He may be our next manager but it wouldn't surprise if that was McBookie trying to drum up some action during a slow period with little football. This is exactly how it works. They were tweeting the other day about the Dunfermline manager market, commenting that “the last few bets are all from the Dundee area for Stewart Petrie, maybe someone knows something!” - while keeping Petrie’s odds at 5/4. If they seriously believed someone “knew something” they’d have heavily shortened his odds or suspended the market altogether. All these small price moves aren’t worth paying much attention to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 8 hours ago, JustLuvinThepian said: Experience from the last few seasons suggests we will be battling it out with Dumbarton and Clyde to avoid the drop. Our first competitive game is in 50 days. As it stands, we have no head coach and just 5 players signed up. A number of of rivals are already signing players for next season. i can quite easily see us spending the next three or four seasons in this league. Deary me, I've been prone to a bit of knicker wetting but this is just daft. This season hasnt even finished yet and players are still under contracts at their clubs until the end of this month. I don't expect us to make any signing announcements whatsoever until then. Same as everyone else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Van_damage said: Gary Deans may have been an MSG appointment but the way the board is structured now means that even S and M can’t have a say in how the club is run. The constitution of the board was changed so that S and M can’t even sell their shares without board approval. The people running the club at the moment are those on the board, not S and M. .......and that hasn’t been truly understood until now. The Rawlins with 26% can control M&S with 40%(?), but M&S can’t control the Rawlins because M&S aren’t on the board. I think an AGM or EGM is the only place M&S could upset the apple cart, but they have never gone against the Board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrispPancake Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 what a shambles of a club. No one in charge and no one responsible for the multitude of fek ups that plaque the club season after season. The perfect BOD structure to deflect any and all criticism and fek the fans up the backside year after year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Van_damage said: Gary Deans may have been an MSG appointment but the way the board is structured now means that even S and M can’t have a say in how the club is run. The constitution of the board was changed so that S and M can’t even sell their shares without board approval. The people running the club at the moment are those on the board, not S and M. You maybe should look though at who got deans on the board in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Nightmare said: This is exactly how it works. They were tweeting the other day about the Dunfermline manager market, commenting that “the last few bets are all from the Dundee area for Stewart Petrie, maybe someone knows something!” - while keeping Petrie’s odds at 5/4. If they seriously believed someone “knew something” they’d have heavily shortened his odds or suspended the market altogether. All these small price moves aren’t worth paying much attention to. In a lot of cases yes but in this case he's the favourite because he is now the favourite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zbairn Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: You maybe should look though at who got deans on the board in the first place. It may have been one of the more vocal MSG / Board members who got Deans onto the Board....Liddell? That has been the problem for some time with SA & MR just sitting watching the numerous fiascos unfold. They didnt appoint their own Board members and the constitution of the club means that they then couldn’t make any decisions without calling EGM’s. That’s the situation at the moment I believe with The Rawlins effectively running the club with just over 20 odd % shareholding. Another interesting thing about the constitution is that you can’t sell your share without approval of the Board. I believe this is a pain in the arse at the moment for some major shareholders who are totally pissed off with the current governance and want to make changes by buying more shares from others to increase their holding to match The Rawlins.....and subsequently be able to appoint their own people onto the Board. effectively it’s a closed shop. Edited May 22, 2021 by Zbairn Additional text 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Zbairn said: It may have been one of the more vocal MSG / Board members who got Deans onto the Board....Liddell? That has been the problem for some time with SA & MR just sitting watching the numerous fiascos unfold. They didnt appoint their own Board members and the constitution of the club means that they then couldn’t make any decisions without calling EGM’s. That’s the situation at the moment I believe with The Rawlins effectively running the club with just over 20 odd % shareholding. Another interesting thing about the constitution is that you can’t sell your share without approval of the Board. I believe this is a pain in the arse at the moment for some major shareholders who are totally pissed off with the current governance and want to make changes by buying more shares from others to increase their holding to match The Rawlins.....and subsequently be able to appoint their own people onto the Board. You've got deans saying he represents every shareholder who voted him on to the board too when he certainly doesn't have my backing and I'm sure many others. Edited May 22, 2021 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marshmallo Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Daily Record reporting it too. Elon Musk and Colplay though - goodness me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I have no pre-concieved opinion on Sheerin but everything I've heard is that he tries to get teams playing out from the back and attacking, which I'm all for. You'd hope he has a good insight into the players reaching the end of their time at youth level and not quite able to make Scottish Premiership teams, which is 1000000% the market we should be in. More than happy to give him a chance. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter LaFleur Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: I have no pre-concieved opinion on Sheerin but everything I've heard is that he tries to get teams playing out from the back and attacking, which I'm all for. You'd hope he has a good insight into the players reaching the end of their time at youth level and not quite able to make Scottish Premiership teams, which is 1000000% the market we should be in. More than happy to give him a chance. Agreed. Let’s be honest, M&M nearly won this league with a ganting squad and zero coaching or management skills so the bar is set pretty low for Sheerin. Edited May 22, 2021 by Peter LaFleur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) I also have absolutely zero pre conceived notion of him. Will give him every chance to bed in and hope he does well. Also going to take any opinions of him from Aberdeen fans with a heavy pinch of salt. For me, outside of the ugly sisters, the most entitled fanbase in the country. Mcinness and staff delivered 2nd and 3rd place galore, as well as cup finals and semis galore. Let’s not forget the years before that they were directly fighting us for relegation. This season seemed to go a bit stale but for me he was verging on manager of the decade. How much hand Sheerin had in this I don’t know, but I don’t think I’d hate this appointment Edited May 22, 2021 by bairn88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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