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Christ,  still bumming up Telfer after a handful of good games in 3 seasons. Always other players faults...aye decent on the ball but without it he was outmuscled and chasing shadows against part time players, who were pacier and stronger. Really glad he's away, we can get better than him.

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7 minutes ago, Syd Puddefoot said:

Christ,  still bumming up Telfer after a handful of good games in 3 seasons. Always other players faults...aye decent on the ball but without it he was outmuscled and chasing shadows against part time players, who were pacier and stronger. Really glad he's away, we can get better than him.

We played him out of position all season last year, had him sitting far too deep to affect the game. He should have been playing as the 10 but due to our horrendous recruitment he was left trying to do it all in the middle of the park. Just imagine having to try play in the middle of the park with Gary Miller & Steven Hetherington? 

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5 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

We played him out of position all season last year, had him sitting far too deep to affect the game. He should have been playing as the 10 but due to our horrendous recruitment he was left trying to do it all in the middle of the park. Just imagine having to try play in the middle of the park with Gary Miller & Steven Hetherington? 

Even in our half decent side two years ago though he was seldom turning it on.  Gomis was still very competent then and should've been able to get the best out of him but it was once in a blue moon he turned it on.

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18 minutes ago, Syd Puddefoot said:

Christ,  still bumming up Telfer after a handful of good games in 3 seasons. Always other players faults...aye decent on the ball but without it he was outmuscled and chasing shadows against part time players, who were pacier and stronger. Really glad he's away, we can get better than him.

Jesus wept! Of course there are pacier and stronger players than Telfer. It's about complementing players abilities with other players in the team. He had to do fuckin everything for himself last season. Maybe you didn't notice?

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2 minutes ago, Jackie Myles said:

Even in our half decent side two years ago though he was seldom turning it on.  Gomis was still very competent then and should've been able to get the best out of him but it was once in a blue moon he turned it on.

He was one of our only players the last few seasons that was capable of going and winning a game for us. With the 20 players we currently have signed up for next season you can only really say that about Callumn Morrison at the moment. Still plenty of work to be done right enough.

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2 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

He was one of our only players the last few seasons that was capable of going and winning a game for us. With the 20 players we currently have signed up for next season you can only really say that about Callumn Morrison at the moment. Still plenty of work to be done right enough.

Capable yes but didn't do it more than 3 or 4 times a season unfortunately if that. When he first arrived he ran the show at Ayr United in a league cup game and I thought wow what a player he's going to be in league one.  However, we only saw that telfer on a handful of occasions.  That's why he was in league one and not playing at a higher level. Bags of talent but no confidence or desperation to use it.

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18 minutes ago, roman_bairn said:

All this Telfer superstar chat is making me chuckle.
How quickly our supporters forget….

I don't see anybody saying he was or is a superstar. He was however our best midfielder by some distance last season and, as I said, given we need to build a squad, he would be a good addition to it. Not necessarily a starter but definitely an option.

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3 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

I don't see anybody saying he was or is a superstar. He was however our best midfielder by some distance last season and, as I said, given we need to build a squad, he would be a good addition to it. Not necessarily a starter but definitely an option.

Depends then what kind of contract he was on or wanted mind you. I'd expect he would've had to take a wage cut if only seen as a squad player and might have thought he'd get better elsewhere anyway.🤷

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Last point i'll make on Telfer as football's opinion based so of course we're not all going to agree. Here's the stats from the rest of the centre midfielders/attacking midfielders in the league last season. Tried my best to keep it to players who played centrally.

Dylan Easton - 8 goals, 9 assists
Charlie Telfer - 5 goals, 8 assists
Luca Connell - 7 goals, 5 assists
Stefan Scougall - 4 goals, 8 assists
Fraser Fyvie - 8 goals, 2 assists
Grant Savoury - 6 goals, 4 assists
Scott Brown - 6 goals, 3 assists
Rhys Mccabe - 5 goals, 4 assists
Adam Frizzell - 3 goals, 5 assists



 

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3 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

Last point i'll make on Telfer as football's opinion based so of course we're not all going to agree. Here's the stats from the rest of the centre midfielders/attacking midfielders in the league last season.

Dylan Easton - 8 goals, 9 assists
Charlie Telfer - 5 goals, 8 assists
Luca Connell - 7 goals, 5 assists
Stefan Scougall - 4 goals, 8 assists
Fraser Fyvie - 8 goals, 2 assists
Grant Savoury - 6 goals, 4 assists
Scott Brown - 6 goals, 3 assists
Rhys Mccabe - 5 goals, 4 assists
Adam Frizzell - 3 goals, 5 assists



 

Player of his ability should be getting double figures in goals easily.

 

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Just now, Jackie Myles said:

Player of his ability should be getting double figures in goals easily.

 

Aye that's it, he should have been scoring from his own half as least once every 3 games as that's how far back we had him playing all season.

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5 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said:

Aye that's it, he should have been scoring from his own half as least once every 3 games as that's how far back we had him playing all season.

His 5 goals were all against the utter dross of the league. Even when we had a decent side two year ago and was played further forward he could only muster  4 again all against the poor sides in the league. He's a player you know can do so much more but hardly ever does. Very frustrating.

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20 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said:

Not impressed with any of our signings - have we learned nothing - If you cannot get decent players at least sign big strong athletes. 

Gary Oliver, no idea who he is, but a striker who hasn't scored more than 10 in a season - He'll be 27  at the start of the season - he's just managed that amount of career goals!

McGinn is a risk, hunners of clubs, lots of mutual consents, had a bad injury in the past - could be well past it.

Mackie = crock

 

<Season ticket money stays in back pocket>

 

 

 

 

 

So who would you like to see us sign? Just mind we are in the 3rd Tier of Scottish football no the premier league. 

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What's the point of arguing over Telfer - he's gone.

It was stated at the Directors meeting that we were likely to only sign 5 or 6 players which would mean we won't see many more come in on contracts. I hope the next is the striker we really need. The rest will be made up of loan players and the squad will be c. 24 to 25. So I wouldn't expect many more in as the budget will be close to spent.

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