wunfellaff Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hey why do you think we Bears post on here? Most of us welcome enquiries and most of us eschew the idea that a person with a different view is a "Timposter". Most of us post on here because we respect people who have different views and because there's a sensible level of debate and no need to toe a party line. Aye, sure P&B has its fair share of fannies and tedious, repetitious chunts but we post on The BRALT because we think its a good discussion-place. Sometimes. Date joined....02/13.....nuff said....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Date joined....02/13.....nuff said....... Aye. I never posted before February this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Date joined....02/13.....nuff said....... Don't be a twat. The_Kincardine is one of the best posters on this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Date joined....02/13.....nuff said....... You can see an explanation here: http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/198327-history-robbing-bassas/ Mind you, it was posted before the LNS's conclusion so I'd maybe want to revise part of it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 This is what you put in an ideas documents: the grandiose and the prosaic. I have just no idea why you're taking exception to this. Sure, some of it is shite but much is sensible. All it is is one guy's jottings on how he'd like to see Rangers develop. How is this, at all, exceptionable? It's a long way from Minty's "For ever fiver you spend......" philosophy. I'd have said it's a pretty sane bit of work from a new investor in a new company to make which he'd then put forward for debate and refinement. It's a cliché but there is actually nothing to see here. I tend to agree that it's not a vastly significant document. I also agree that it contains more sanity than we got via Murray's posturing. However, refereces to European trophies within 7 years are simply outrageous. It reeks of a mindset that has not yet recognised reality. Not a big deal right enough, but still funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Don't be a twat. The_Kincardine is one of the best posters on this thread. Duh... You can see an explanation here: http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/198327-history-robbing-bassas/ Mind you, it was posted before the LNS's conclusion so I'd maybe want to revise part of it! Och I know.... you gave me one of my favourite posting moments on p+b....... childish maybe, but the "its all water under the bridge kincardine " amused me for eons..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I tend to agree that it's not a vastly significant document. I also agree that it contains more sanity than we got via Murray's posturing. However, refereces to European trophies within 7 years are simply outrageous. It reeks of a mindset that has not yet recognised reality. Not a big deal right enough, but still funny. Monkey, aye a bit of it is funny and was it a plan then I'd be beeling. For me I want the plan to be: A self-sustaining and well-managed football club which balances income and expenditure. I want the ambition to be: Winning a European trophy by 2020. What the f**k is wrong with that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Monkey, aye a bit of it is funny and was it a plan then I'd be beeling. For me I want the plan to be: A self-sustaining and well-managed football club which balances income and expenditure. I want the ambition to be: Winning a European trophy by 2020. What the f**k is wrong with that? File under "would believe Romanov"..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Duh... Och I know.... you gave me one of my favourite posting moments on p+b....... childish maybe, but the "its all water under the bridge kincardine " amused me for eons..... Wunf, I am just shite at doing irony and am too literalistic by half. Scrolling back I now chuckle at the "water under the bridge Kincardine" but it has taken me a few months! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 You can see an explanation here: http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/198327-history-robbing-bassas/ Mind you, it was posted before the LNS's conclusion so I'd maybe want to revise part of it! Aye but who really owns the email address, show us the IP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I want the ambition to be: Winning a European trophy by 2020. What the f**k is wrong with that? Nothing wrong with it at all, so long as you have the perspective to put it alongside your personal ambitions re Sandra Bullock and Tilda Swinton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 And that should shame each and every one of you. Any other club and their forums would have had their versions of the bralt. But any attempt at "enquiries" on the bun media is met by "sniff sniff" and "it reeks in here" ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Nothing wrong with it at all, so long as you have the perspective to put it alongside your personal ambitions re Sandra Bullock and Tilda Swinton. Aye 2 burds and one cup. Seems fine to me. one has to have ambtions! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Aye but who really owns the email address, show us the IP I declare that you are really Bomber and claim my £5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) On one of the share sites (had link sent but not on this device) apparently there's an announcement on tues regarding ownership and smith is walking away. Not seen it anywhere else so pinch of salt needed. It also queries if the sfa will revoke licence due to fraud. May 7th is date to look for Even if its found to be the worst case of rule breaking. The SFA will look the other way because it suits them. Edited May 4, 2013 by Fotbawmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) I must be reading this wrong but " the media experts played along with the fraud". Are you suggesting that this done to benefit Rangers? Yes, I am. Kind of. I know there's an apparent contradicton in saying that a pro-Rangers press played a part in getting the club ripped off, but it's true. In much the same way that a presumaby pro-Rangers support allowed it too. The press weren't conspiring with Whyte or Green to carry out their dastardly plans, but they weren't keen to look too closely either, lest they upset those who deserve better. They also hoped all was well and like many fans, found it easier to cross their fingers than enquire. A compliant press has certainly helped with the humbling of Rangers. Edited May 4, 2013 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 The records interview with ally Ally McCoist and his players will parade the SFL3 trophy after their final match against Berwick Rangers, the culmination of a campaign that was preceded by one of the greatest mugs bets ever the bookies odds on Rangers getting through the entire season without dropping a point. As matters stand, Rangers have lost three and drawn eight of their games and should they drop points again on Saturday afternoon, they would finish the season without maximum reward from a third of their fixtures. We want to win the game, make no mistake, McCoist said. Should there be celebrations? Oh I think if anybody should celebrate, it's the fans. It's a sell-out again and that's just incredible. And so should the young boys and the team. If you don't celebrate the good times, then you shouldn't be in the game at all because no matter what anyone says, they've won the championship and they have won it very comfortably. The fans certainly deserve some recognition from the players as well. I'd be very hopeful there'd be mutual respect and thanks. So, yes, celebrations are certainly the order of the day. McCoist, though, will be unable to avoid mixed feelings about the occasion, because of the tumultuous and at times grotesque consequences that were unleashed by the financial default brought about by Craig Whyte, which cast Rangers into what had been previously regarded as the outer darkness of the lower leagues. Im hoping its the end of probably the two weirdest seasons of my life and we can start afresh, he said. Football wise its been everything we expected it to be - there were bizarre moments, happy moments and sad moments. We knew it wouldnt be the cake walk a lot of people thought it would be and that was certainly the case. Theres a lot of things that club can be very proud of this season. We brought full houses to places that probably havent had it for a good number of years. It would take some clubs seasons to earn what they did in their two home games against us. We should be very proud of that - plus in the vast majority of cases, our supporters have bonded fantastically well with the people in the towns theyve been visiting. If someone had told me what my first two years as Rangers manager would be like, I just wouldnt have believed them. Right at the start we had a rough idea things werent right then when the players we were looking for were getting knocked back. We were promised all sorts of money to spend and weve been promised money to spend again [by Charles Green, the recently departed chief executive] and - I dont know, maybe Im turning into an old cynic - Im not sure that £10 million will be there. Its terrible how football does this to you. This glass half-full man is getting battered but I shall not turn into a pessimist. Some of the off-field stuff quite frankly has been an embarrassment. You just wonder what the great Rangers people would have made of it not a lot I would have thought. We just need to get back to some form of normality which we dont have at the moment. McCoists strategy meeting with Craig Mather which, as Telegraph Sport revealed, was scheduled for early in the week, had to be postponed because of a funeral attended by McCoist, but the pair sat down yesterday to begin planning for the close season and beyond. Asked if supposing it were available a £10 million transfer kitty would be appropriate in the humble context of SFL2 McCoist replied: Probably not, but, if I am going to be totally selfish about it, I would have to spend it to get out of the division and keep me, Ian Durrant, Kenny McDowall and the rest of the staff in a job. You cant have it both ways. You cant not spend it and then be criticised by everybody. I didnt spend any money this year, with the exception of David Templeton, and, whether we like it or not, we were criticised heavily for our performances. The objective was to get out the league and it will be the same next year. There wont be a massive, massive improvement. Look at the players we lost - Whittaker, Naismith, Jelavic, Lafferty, these were all £3 million or £4 million signings that went out the door. Since then we have brought in a couple of £500,000 players. Even a marquee free transfer would cost you bundles. That is the only reason they will come to SFL2 and that isnt going to happen. Your top, top players arent going to be in SFL2. We are not going to get the top youngsters at the moment because, simply, they are under contract. The ones not under contract wont want to come to SFL2. We wont be back until we spend money. People say you can build a team from youth, but has it ever happened in the last 20 or 30 years? (yes but no-one else has been banished to play in a league where £30 a week wages are the norm) Manchester United brought through five or six youngsters at the same time, but we have had kids coming in to the side one or two at a time over the last 15 years. We have never had seven or eight. I dont see any reason why that would change. You bring seven or eight youngsters into the division we are in, and they would struggle to survive. We'd struggle in the SPL, that's for sure. I think we'd probably stay up, but in terms of competing? There's no reason why, when you lose 30 players, you should be able to get a team who will challenge the league you've just left. So it's not a surprise. It's going to take time before we're up challenging again. McCoist keen on Clark Rangers manager Ally McCoist has confirmed his interest in Queen of the South striker Nicky Clark. McCoist has already held talks with the player's representative and his father, former Gers player and current Palmerston assistant Sandy, about a switch to Ibrox next season. McCoist now hopes to meet with the player, who has netted an impressive 40 goals for the Irn-Bru Second Division champions this season, in the coming days. He said: "I've spoken to Nicky's agent and I've spoken to his father, who I know reasonably well, just to let them know that we have an interest in talking to Nicky and meeting up with him and seeing if there is a possibility of him coming to the club. "We are no further down the line than that, but I spoke to Sandy and I'm very keen to meet up, as are Sandy and Nicky, so hopefully we can get a meeting in the next couple of days. "His goalscoring record is fantastic and we certainly need strengthened in forward areas, as we do all over the park." Received well on the swamp.... That's frightening. Hë needs tën million to get out of div 2?????? Dear god! Worryingly incoherent. Not able to build a team from youth? No massive improvement expected? Difficult to attract players. Need to spend £10 to keep the coaching staff in a job? Perhaps it actually is coherent though, Ally expects to spend a relative fortune on whoever will lower themselves to come to us so that we do just enough to win the league thus keeping him and the lads in a job. This mouthwatering prospect makes me desperate to renew my season ticket. The usual suspects defend him though.....glorious reading at this time of day... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 The guy who said: "Ally expects to spend a relative fortune on whoever will lower themselves to come to us so that we do just enough to win the league thus keeping him and the lads in a job." ... is pretty much right. That really is what McCoist's comments boil down to. How embarrassing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) The guy who said: "Ally expects to spend a relative fortune on whoever will lower themselves to come to us so that we do just enough to win the league thus keeping him and the lads in a job." ... is pretty much right. That really is what McCoist's comments boil down to. How embarrassing. And he wonders why he gets guys with the Sandaza attitude. He asking for mercenaries Sent from my GT-I8160 using Pie & Bovril mobile app Edited May 4, 2013 by MEADOWXI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 No-one should be questioning Ally McCoist. Ally McCoist won the title this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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