mozam76 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Kyle Hutton reveals he is transferring to New Rangers. Better get those Fitba Manager gifs altered! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Is Whyte not banned from being on the board of a football club? Or am I talking pish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Masonic technique there IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Liam McLeod @BBCLiamMcLeod #Rangers say Kyle Hutton has committed to the newco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 What I can't understand is why Rangers fans are so up in arms about fans of other clubs and their glee about the announcement of constant nightmare scenarios that pour from Ibrox every day. Are we to believe the rangers fans wouldn't be doing the same? or are they so blinkered that they wouldn't have recognised any of the other 10 teams who make up the teams outwith the OF. Can't they see the regard their team held in by other clubs because of the stranglehold it had on the whole of scottish football? oh and BTW, Sir David still hasn't got nowhere near the thrashing he deserves for what happened to that club. The fact that the next two owners after he stepped down have been donkeys(no offence to donkeys) is the only reason why he isn't getting more grief. (wouldn't surprise me if Murray was a backer of the other 2 muppets!!) I wouldn't be surprised if Murray had sold the club to Whyte along with a tidy wedge of cash to stick in his wallet to take the flak for the inevitable administration that was over the horizon. I'm guessing we'll have to wait 'til Whyte's in the dock looking at a 4 year stretch before he realises what he's actually let himself in for before the truth comes out. Poor guys looking at doing time when he should be on the New Years Honours list and given the freedom of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Bloody typical timing just got a call about a job , im to go do training next week Have you got a trial with sevco5088 by any chance? :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehoss Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 They are still in denial. Deflecting all blame away from themselves, looking for scapegoats and conspiracies when THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES. Well yeah, but surely a level minded fan of any club can see how they have cocked it up, and admit that they deserve the punishment handed out, the other fans glee is just a by product of this unbelievable balls up. I can't see how the Rangers fans can be so vitriolic towards Whyte(murray to a much lesser extent) and what he has done,essentially admitting that they didn't play by the rules but think the punishment is unfair. How do they justify replacing a team in the 1st Division as some right that should happen, when they are a new club with no history or standing in scottish football. The worst thing about the denial is all that trophy/history nonsense. But I suppose they have to cling to something as the way it's going day by day there will be nothing at all left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Alan McGregor - Rejected switch to newco Neil Alexander - Out of contract Scott Gallacher - out of contract Grant Adam - out of contract Defenders Dorin Goian - rumoured to be switching to newco Kirk Broadfoot - rumoured to be switching to newco Sasa Papac - out of contract Lee Wallace - Switching to newco Steven Whittaker - rejected switch to newco Carlos Bocanegra - rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco/on verge of signing for Toronto Ross Perry Chris Hegary - out of contract Darren Cole - out of contract Midfielders Lee McCulloch - rumoured to be switching to newco Maurice Edu Steven Davis - rejected switch to newco Alejandro Bedoya John Fleck - rejected switch to newco Jamie Ness - rejected switch to newco Salim Kerkar - out of contract Andrew Mitchell - out of contract Rhys McCabe - rejected switch to Newco Kyle Hutton - Switching to Newco Robbie Crawford Lewis MacLeod Barry McKay Juan Ortiz - rejected switch to newco Strikers Kyle Lafferty - rejected switch to newco Steven Naismith - rejected switch to newco David Healy - out of contract Andrew Little - out of contract Sone Aluko - rejected switch to newco Kane Hemmings Kal Naismith SPL Confirmed nos (5 required) Hearts Dundee United Hibs Aberdeen ICT St Johnstone SFL1 Confirmed Nos; (8 required) Raith Rovers Morton Falkirk (although with some ambiguity in their statement) Rumoured SFL1 nos Peterhead Livingston 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) A 16 team SPL would definitely smooth the way for Sevco to get into the First as it eases the fears of clubs worried about missing out on promotion next season...... 16 teams has next to no chance of getting through an SPL vote - particularly so if it seems tainted with getting Sevco 5088 into the First. The same fans who did so much last week are still watching. Also, your logic falls down because the clubs confirmed so far in opposition - Morton and Raith - are hardly front-running contenders for promotion. That is not what this is about for either club. At every step all these schemes have to get past member clubs of one league, the other, or probably both. Muddying the waters would hinder this, which is why I don't think there can feasibly be a quickie reconstruction for the newco's benefit. Reconstruction has to be discussed in complete isolation from Sevco 5088. Suspension (or having no NewCo at all) for at least a year would at least clear things up: allowing a detailed plan for league reconstruction to be considered for 13/14. With or without a phoenix club in the lowest league. Edited June 27, 2012 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomogganners Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 They are still in denial. Deflecting all blame away from themselves, looking for scapegoats and conspiracies when THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehoss Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 The Bears on RM & FF must feel let down.......she's been a tarrier all along Lol, resplendent decked out all in green! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Apologies if posted already but we are all Turnbull Hutton "We have been inundated with emails from fans and season-ticket holders. People have said they are holding off on buying season tickets until they find out what is happening with Rangers situation and there are some strong opinions out there, with some supporters of 25 years saying they will not be back at Raith Rovers if we back the Rangers proposals. "With what is happening with the SPL clubs, it seems to have been punted on to the SFL clubs to solve the problem, a problem which is none of our doing. But, personally, my view was that I would have difficult supporting any move to put Rangers in the First Division given the history of what has happened. "This is the same Rangers whose supporters threatened to torch our stadium and whose manager demanded that one of our directors was named over his involvement with an SFA judicial panel, which resulted in TV cameras camping outside his door and threats being made by various outlandish factions. "We also had Sandy Jardine publicly calling for repercussions for those clubs who have not supported Rangers. Given that, how could I, as an individual, be expected to roll over and have my tummy tickled by some inducement to allow Rangers to come into the First Division? I gave my opinion to the board on Monday night and the board had a position which was not in any way different from my own. "That does not mean if and when there is a meeting of the SFL clubs and a vote that the outcome will go the way we want it to go. I imagine some clubs will see some short-term advantage to be had. "But if long-term you cheese off your season-ticket holders and supporters and backers is it worth it? Do you sell your position for 30 pieces of silver for some short-term advantage or take the moral high ground? From our point of view, there should be an application from Rangers to come into the SFL in the Third Division and that is something that would, I think, be supported by all league clubs." Legendary No fudge. No sporting integrity versus economic necessity. Telling it like it really is. You fûcked about with us so now we do the same to you. Good man. I would hope the Rovers get a good reception everywhere they play next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 It gets even better found this on twitter Tony McKelvie @TonyMcKelvieSo Morton have joined Raith, Peterhead, Falkirk, Partick and Livi in saying No to Sevco. 6 down, 2 to go. Not looking promising... Must have missed the Peterhead statement. Where did this info come from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 i hope so. However, much as i abhor the 11 to 1 vote, he is wrong to suggest that enlarging the SPL is being held up by the exOF, the other clubs in the SPL have been complicit in blocking this because they wanted the 4 fixtures against the cheeks each season. Hopefully this recent awareness of the folly of that policy will enable us to get a proper league. His proposal would still give 4 fixtures against OF for many clubs... It's essentially a slightly tweaked version of the 14-team SPL (difference being 2 extra clubs and 3 splits creating 36/40/40 or similar not 36/40, in terms of games). That said... we've already got several SFL1 clubs saying they won't take carrots to let Rangers into SFL1, and on previous evidence you'd wonder how many SPL clubs share Gilmour's view. Litmus test will be if SPL clubs agree to offer 14/16-team SPL, with 4x playing/splits/EL play-offs. It's not what fans think 16 means, but might SFL1 clubs change stance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Have you got a trial with sevco5088 by any chance? :lol: no comment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomogganners Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Must have missed the Peterhead statement. Where did this info come from? Was said on 15th June http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/peterhead/106255-peterhead-chairman-insists-new-rangers-must-start-life-in-third-division/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Liam McLeod @BBCLiamMcLeod #Rangers say Kyle Hutton has committed to the newco We had Hutton at Firhill for the 1st part of last season. Good player and no coincidence that our form dipped the minute he went back to Ipox, that said he didnt seem to do a lot at the Pars in the 2nd part of the season. He could easily get a English Championship club. Surprised he has committed, though he will probably be guaranteed a game every week now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoMaSano Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 So in other words... Gilmour backs putting Rangers into SFL1 - then ensuring they'll be back in SPL next season by ensuring the Top 4 go up ? His plan would have to overcome numerous hurdles anyway. Several clubs ardently back 10-team SPL (including Hibs, Aberdeen, St Johnstone) and few backed even 14. Celtic don't want a 40-game season. SFA want 10-team SPL. Clubs at the bottom get 36 games while bigger sides get 40. Having completed a 40-game season for top clubs you've then EL play-offs ontop. And Gilmour probably won't even be at St Mirren next season. I only read the section of the article relating to the proposed structure, not his opinion's regarding NewCo in SFL1. Please consider my praise of Gilmour null and void! With the financial losses caused by Rangers demise I'd think any expansion has reduced in liklihood, but it'd be to 14 (36/40) if it was to happen. Not to detract too much from the laughing at Rangers towards too much discussion over league reconstruction, but your suggestion (6/8 split) and Gilmour's (6/6/4) both suffer from the problem of having to stretch the EL play offs down to 7th in the league somehow. The 16 (4/6/6) split avoids this problem, making European play offs much more viable. This is the main reason I back this structure over the various other workable solutions posted over the years. However Gilmour's idea does hold fundemental what Scottish football must always retain... split, 4x playing, EL play-offs, high 30s/40 league games. Amen to that. The "back to the 60s/70s" time machine brigade would get football in Scotland cancelled. How long before someone suggests League Cup group stages! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Diamond Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Lol, resplendent decked out all in green! And don't forget Harry is a Ginger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 It gets even better found this on twitter Tony McKelvie @TonyMcKelvie So Morton have joined Raith, Peterhead, Falkirk, Partick and Livi in saying No to Sevco. 6 down, 2 to go. Not looking promising... He must know more than we fans do!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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