Aberdeen Cowden Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, RussellAnderson said: See this was what I didnt miss when we were consistent under McInnes until the last couple seasons. Incessant speculation over whether the manager is doing a good or a bad job. hes here, he aint going anywhere. Dons need to get more pace and creativity into the team. Samuels, hedges and Watkins can all provide that. Maybe he moves Ojo back into the mf three to provide a bit more creativity and drive from deep? Feel for McInnes. Only Kingsford seemed to be on the agenda for such a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sheep62 said: It suggests more than that to me Bob We've regressed defensively this season. I'd argue that Taylor, Hoban & Considine of last season were all better than whats playing in central defence right now. Our defensive issues go beyond who is playing centre half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, tarapoa said: It’s giant wooosh - even McCormuck himself finds it funny when he occasionally logs on. As for the “Gashton” reference - still await the evidence that we’ve upgraded there. I wasn't suggesting that we had upgraded, only that we'd need to to play like we'd said we would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep62 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Our defensive issues go beyond who is playing centre half. Never said they didn't but they are most definitely a contributory factor Our ex captain carries a burden of responsibility in this, and dare I say that the way Ramsay and McKenzie are played also contributes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: Fairly sure when we announced Gallagher there was a Motherwell fan who was quite upset that we weren’t absolutely buzzing about it. Definitely wasn't me but aye, it rings a bell. Some folk eh? I think the majority of P&B 'well fans are of the consensus that he had an outstanding 1st season and fully deserved his call up but went off a cliff in his 2nd with an added distaste for how he carried himself that season both as a player and captain along with his exit. Trying to be objective about it he comes across as someone who's let his Scotland call up get the better of him and he's just stopped bothering to do the things that got him in that position in the first place. Before he resigned Robinson made a few comments about players in the group who thought they were better than they are and didn't want to be at the club. In hindsight it doesn't even seem a veiled dig a Gallagher. Clearly he didn't get what he wanted (that would have been his move to Celtic) but I've no doubt he's getting his money at Pittodrie. Which is fair enough. I'd be curious to know who pushed for his signing though given McInnes was emptied, Russ Richardson left and the new HoR didn't arrive until midway through the window (right?) and the pre-contract was announced on 6th of May which was about 3 weeks after Glass got the job (and had been rumoured long before that). Edited September 14, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Definitely wasn't me but aye, it rings a bell. Some folk eh? I think the majority of P&B 'well fans are of the consensus that he had an outstanding 1st season and fully deserved his call up but went off a cliff in his 2nd with an added distaste for how he carried himself that season both as a player and captain along with his exit. Trying to be objective about it he comes across as someone who's let his Scotland call up get the better of him and he's just stopped bothering to do the things that got him in that position in the first place. Before he resigned Robinson made a few comments about players in the group who thought they were better than they are and didn't want to be at the club. In hindsight it doesn't even seem a veiled dig a Gallagher. Clearly he didn't get what he wanted (that would have been his move to Celtic) but I've no doubt he's getting his money at Pittodrie. Which is fair enough. I'd be curious to know who pushed for his signing though given McInnes was emptied, Russ Richardson left and the new HoR didn't arrive until midway through the window (right?) and the pre-contract was announced on 6th of May which was about 3 weeks after Glass got the job (and had been rumoured long before that). aye to be fair I remember you basically telling us not to be buzzing. As I said at the time I hope we haven’t paid way over the odds. I’d imagine Steven Gunn (director of football operation) would’ve overseen a lot of recruitment stuff while we transitioned from the previous regime. I’d imagine Gallagher being out of contract and proven in Scotland he’ll have been seen as a fairly low risk option to press on with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: aye to be fair I remember you basically telling us not to be buzzing. As I said at the time I hope we haven’t paid way over the odds. I’d imagine Steven Gunn (director of football operation) would’ve overseen a lot of recruitment stuff while we transitioned from the previous regime. I’d imagine Gallagher being out of contract and proven in Scotland he’ll have been seen as a fairly low risk option to press on with. Yeah, it was kind of difficult for it not to seem like sour grapes that Aberdeen had 'swooped' in and got our captain and Scotland international on a free but really, there was no lie in what most of us were saying. If you got the 19/20 version you were getting a very, very good defender (and tbf, there's still plenty time for him to come good) but if you get the 20/21 version with the expectation of an "international defender" and captain material with renumeration to match then you're massively overpaying for what you've brought in. There was a fair bit of chat about him on our thread yesterday after the "revelation" that he's deleted his Twitter and it's clear there's a good way to leave Motherwell (eg: Allan Campbell) and a bad way. Big Dec has definitely landed on the bad side of that rule. Edited September 14, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Yeah, it was kind of difficult for it not to seem like sour grapes that Aberdeen had 'swooped' in and got our captain and Scotland international on a free but really, there was no lie in what most of us were saying. If you got the 19/20 version you were getting a very, very good defender (and tbf, there's still plenty time for him to come good) but if you get the 20/21 version with the expectation of an "international defender" and captain material with renumeration to match then you're massively overpaying for what you've brought in. There was a fair bit of chat about him on our thread yesterday after the "revelation" that he's deleted his Twitter and it's clear there's a good way to leave Motherwell (eg: Allan Campbell) and a bad way. Big Dec has definitely landed on the bad side of that rule. And then he joined us and almost instantly started bigging up Ryan jack on social media. He might just be a bit simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: And then he joined us and almost instantly started bigging up Ryan jack on social media. He might just be a bit simple. Maybe he thought speaking kindly of a club legend was a sure fire way to endear himself to the fans. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheep62 said: It suggests more than that to me Bob We've regressed defensively this season. I'd argue that Taylor, Hoban & Considine of last season were all better than whats playing in central defence right now. It's easy to look good when the defence has a remit to kick the ball as far up the park as possible whenever they have possession. 11 minutes ago, AJF said: Maybe he thought speaking kindly of a club legend was a sure fire way to endear himself to the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, AJF said: Maybe he thought speaking kindly of a club legend was a sure fire way to endear himself to the fans. Swing and a miss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 players in during the last transfer window, will take time for them to settle. Think the best time to judge the season is after 11 games and not just 5 so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, betting competition said: 11 players in during the last transfer window, will take time for them to settle. Think the best time to judge the season is after 11 games and not just 5 so far. Surely you include the European and cup games as well? So really, it's 12 games played so far? I mean, fair enough giving the first round of fixtures to judge but still...more than 5 games. Edited September 14, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, AJF said: Maybe he thought speaking kindly of a club legend was a sure fire way to endear himself to the fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7696532/everton-ramsay-missing-rangers-patterson/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 https://www.afc.co.uk/2021/09/14/spfl-member-clubs-invest-in-independent-advice-on-strategic-review/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: https://www.afc.co.uk/2021/09/14/spfl-member-clubs-invest-in-independent-advice-on-strategic-review/ East coast mafia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: East coast mafia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Seems like the SPFL have just got the member clubs to do their job for them. Positive news though, to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Need to qualify for them first... Yeah, of course. Was referring to the last summer and learn from it if in the same position again. Definitely not a given at the moment anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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