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48 minutes ago, betting competition said:

Everyone getting excited with 3 strikers when the issue is the midfield and the lack of chances they are creating. 3 strikers are going to struggle to score goals for us.

TBF if youd been paying any attention to their careers thus far, you'd realise your 3 strikers are going to struggle to score goals anyway.

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I think the new Aberdeen players need time to adapt to a new team. Aberdeen are in a strong position with a good manager. They just need to be patient. Aberdeen are basically building a new team now. Even Jim Mclean only won 3 trophies in around 20 years at his great Dundee United side. 

Just be patient. 

McInnes is a great manager. 

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11 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Love the fact that whenever a team loses its because they "lack leaders", as if grown men who've been playing football for ~10 years are completely lost on a football pitch without some grizzled 36yo CB shouting at them for 90 minutes.

That's not what I said, maybe others did. 

I pointed out that....not for the first time....when Lewis made a mistake, he panicked. For whatever reason, whether it's lack of leadership, mental weakness, or just general bawbagedness, at the very same moment our defence fell to pieces. 

I'm sure someone like yourself who watches Aberdeen religiously will recognise that there's a pattern developing. 

To intimate that a captain of a football club is of no importance is plainly utter rubbish. Just because a player is experienced doesn't mean that he's a leader, and the history of the game is littered with succesful clubs who had natural leaders as captains.

How can Lewis be the captain of the club when his head is the first to go down when something goes wrong ? What an example to set.

I'm not suggesting that's the only reason we're losing games, of course it isn't. But we lost the game last night because firstly Lewis threw the ball into his own net, and secondly because the team went into collective headless chicken mode for the next 30 minutes because of that. We recovered after halftime but the damage was done. 

For whatever reason, we lack leadership on the pitch. I've no idea why I'm explaining this to an opposition fan who's obsessed with Aberdeen, but I am.

 

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Morning everyone :)

Now time for a rant.

Lewis has been a bit of a calamity this season. I honestly believe had he not scored that OG it would have been a different outcome. The players heads just dropped and it set the tone for the rest of the game. Having said that, Livi were by far the better side at that stage so probably would have scored anyway. 

Aberdeen are so frustrating to watch. We seem to just pass the ball around the back - to a centre mid - back to defence and redo that over and over again. This aimless lumping forward from the defence infuriates me too. Hayes' crossing has been abysmal this season. We currently have no players in the top 12 assisters in the league and only one player with over 3 goals in our side (Ferguson with 8). Thats appalling. Especially given our budget etc. 

McInnes and his men owe the fans some bloody decent performances and results. 3 wins in 15 is shocking. Relegation stuff.

 

 

 

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The captain issue is a bit of a red herring in my eyes. As someone said above, the role is basically symbolic  with a bit of administration attached to it. A team needs leaders in every area of the pitch. If your captain is a centre half, does that really any more of an effect on a striker? 

FWIW I thought Ferguson was actually very good last night, and played a "captains role", really trying to drive the team forward. Unfortunately, the rest of the team seemed to take no notice. Thats more worrying to me than Lewis making one howler. hes certainly not having his best season, but there are bigger problems with the team. 

I dont think its any coincidence that we lost hedges and didnt look like creating last night. hes one of the few players in our squad who has a brilliant attitude and keeps going no matter what, certainly not something youd have thought about him last season. McCrorie  needs to step up in his role alongside Ferguson. Considine needs to be more vocal, especially when hoban looks like hes having a wobble next to him. hayes needs to do the same in the forward areas. 

I hope McInnes is erally taking a long hard look at that team, and their limitations going into a really key period of the season. 

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35 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Morning everyone :)

Now time for a rant.

Lewis has been a bit of a calamity this season. I honestly believe had he not scored that OG it would have been a different outcome. The players heads just dropped and it set the tone for the rest of the game. Having said that, Livi were by far the better side at that stage so probably would have scored anyway. 

Aberdeen are so frustrating to watch. We seem to just pass the ball around the back - to a centre mid - back to defence and redo that over and over again. This aimless lumping forward from the defence infuriates me too. Hayes' crossing has been abysmal this season. We currently have no players in the top 12 assisters in the league and only one player with over 3 goals in our side (Ferguson with 8). Thats appalling. Especially given our budget etc. 

McInnes and his men owe the fans some bloody decent performances and results. 3 wins in 15 is shocking. Relegation stuff.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:

cheer up you miserable c*** :)

 

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8 hours ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said:

I think the new Aberdeen players need time to adapt to a new team. Aberdeen are in a strong position with a good manager. They just need to be patient. Aberdeen are basically building a new team now. Even Jim Mclean only won 3 trophies in around 20 years at his great Dundee United side. 

Just be patient. 

McInnes is a great manager. 

Thanks for your input, Derek.

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Aye

If McInnes is still here in 12 years, has another League Cup, a League title and a European final to his name I will take it all back

In the short term, we will probably finish 4th at best this season (third season on the spin outwith the Top 3) and Davey C will be expecting 9,000+ of us to fork out for season tickets soon when we don’t even know if we can get to the games yet

Good luck with that 

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4 minutes ago, the tungston weasel said:

It's strange as when McInnes first came in it was the on pitch leadership that was the first thing he sorted by signing Robson, Flood, Rae.

Rae was pre Mcinnes and left not long after he took over.

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I don't think we lack leadership, i think we lack a plan. There's often very little movement around the man with the ball and we either take an age to go back to front or just leather it if the defender has no pass on.  

Not sure how having someone shouty is going to help that. 

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4 minutes ago, coprolite said:

I don't think we lack leadership, i think we lack a plan. There's often very little movement around the man with the ball and we either take an age to go back to front or just leather it if the defender has no pass on.  

Not sure how having someone shouty is going to help that. 

Not trying to cause offence to anyone but the folk I know who make arguments about the importance of a captain never played organised football. 

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9 minutes ago, coprolite said:

I don't think we lack leadership, i think we lack a plan. There's often very little movement around the man with the ball and we either take an age to go back to front or just leather it if the defender has no pass on.  

Not sure how having someone shouty is going to help that. 

IMO the 3-4-3 isn't really a formation that is designed to progress the ball through the middle of the pitch - it's a formation designed to get overloads in wide areas.

That makes sense when you have a couple of big lads up front who header the ball in the back of the net. But Aberdeen's "soft rebuild" of the forward line means that doesn't necessarily suit the players you have anymore.

The question McInnes now has to answer is how does this all fit together - he's bought forwards that (mostly) prefer the ball at their feet. How does he get the ball to them? It probably requires a change of formation.

 

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48 minutes ago, coprolite said:

I don't think we lack leadership, i think we lack a plan. There's often very little movement around the man with the ball and we either take an age to go back to front or just leather it if the defender has no pass on.  

Not sure how having someone shouty is going to help that. 

It's exactly this.

Whenever we try to build from the back our centre midfield drops deep to pick up the ball while the wing backs hug the touchline. The centre midfield don't then move into spaces around and behind the opposition midfield likely because they've been instructed to protect the defence due to McInnes' pathological circumspection. The forward players are generally all waiting on front of the opposition defence looking to break the back line. With no-one near them, the wing back usually has to play the ball back across the back line, and eventually we're forced to punt down the channel where any reasonably alert full back clears the danger easily.

When that ball goes out to the wing back they should have a centre back, a centre mid, an attacking mid and a winger all looking to get in space close to them. But they don't, because they clearly haven't been coached to.

Last night we started getting some joy when Kennedy was picking up the ball wide and cutting in and driving across the midfield. Inevitably though, it broke down because there was f**k all movement, and he eventually got to the other side of the pitch and was like..."now what?"

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19 minutes ago, Illgresi said:

It's exactly this.

Whenever we try to build from the back our centre midfield drops deep to pick up the ball while the wing backs hug the touchline. The centre midfield don't then move into spaces around and behind the opposition midfield likely because they've been instructed to protect the defence due to McInnes' pathological circumspection. The forward players are generally all waiting on front of the opposition defence looking to break the back line. With no-one near them, the wing back usually has to play the ball back across the back line, and eventually we're forced to punt down the channel where any reasonably alert full back clears the danger easily.

When that ball goes out to the wing back they should have a centre back, a centre mid, an attacking mid and a winger all looking to get in space close to them. But they don't, because they clearly haven't been coached to.

Last night we started getting some joy when Kennedy was picking up the ball wide and cutting in and driving across the midfield. Inevitably though, it broke down because there was f**k all movement, and he eventually got to the other side of the pitch and was like..."now what?"

 

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