DukDukGoose Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Then they get their usual away allocation based on a set minimum percentage, like everyone is suggesting. The bigger picture is that an increasing number of clubs are taking the piss when it comes to away allocations and treatment of away fans. The EPL have a minimum of 3k/10% away ends, which shouldn’t just be in an upper tier (where possible) with tickets capped at £30. Perhaps we should aim for something similar in Scotland as well, instead of away supports being locked out of games entirely or stuck behind a pillar (Celtic), given antiquated unsafe stands whilst better areas sit empty (United) or paying as much as £35 for a ticket (Rangers). The minimum at their stadium is going to be a lot higher than the minimum at every other stadium though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: - ticket prices, yes I’ll give you - away allocations - how much of a problem is it really in this league? Other than the old firm entitlement how many away fans are actually ‘locked out’? We have a great following but other than hearts and the OF where is it actually difficult to get a ticket for? Our away allocation have sold out at a lot of grounds this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, DukDukGoose said: Yip. Just seems that folk are upset they can't attend but not looking at the bigger picture. What happens if we only have 10k home supporters for a 1230ko v Celtic or Rangers? I do have enough points for a ticket. I just think away fans are part of football and there should be rules in place to protect that, within reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: - ticket prices, yes I’ll give you - away allocations - how much of a problem is it really in this league? Other than the old firm entitlement how many away fans are actually ‘locked out’? We have a great following but other than hearts and the OF where is it actually difficult to get a ticket for? We’ve been given less than 1000 tickets at those three grounds, accounting for seven of our away games this season. Nobody is saying it’s a problem every week but there should be something in place to ensure those three clubs aren’t offering pathetic away allocations, as is the case in most leagues and competitions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_don Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Something like this not work? All clubs put up 1,000 tickets for away fans minmimum. - if by x date they aren’t sold or the away club agree then it can be reduced and given to home fans - clubs are free to negotiate more If we want to protect away fans then clubs will have to accept they can’t sell 1,000 season tickets. Mind you, it probably won’t be a problem once the novelty/European places disappear… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, betting competition said: Our away allocation have sold out at a lot of grounds this season. But how often to the degree that there’s huge demand missing out? 26 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: We’ve been given less than 1000 tickets at those three grounds, accounting for seven of our away games this season. Nobody is saying it’s a problem every week but there should be something in place to ensure those three clubs aren’t offering pathetic away allocations, as is the case in most leagues and competitions. We’ll have to agree to disagree tbh. I just don’t think it’s that big an issue and there is a long list I’d rather the spfl fix ahead of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, kent_don said: Something like this not work? All clubs put up 1,000 tickets for away fans minmimum. - if by x date they aren’t sold or the away club agree then it can be reduced and given to home fans - clubs are free to negotiate more If we want to protect away fans then clubs will have to accept they can’t sell 1,000 season tickets. Mind you, it probably won’t be a problem once the novelty/European places disappear… Far too sensible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, kent_don said: Something like this not work? All clubs put up 1,000 tickets for away fans minmimum. - if by x date they aren’t sold or the away club agree then it can be reduced and given to home fans - clubs are free to negotiate more If we want to protect away fans then clubs will have to accept they can’t sell 1,000 season tickets. Mind you, it probably won’t be a problem once the novelty/European places disappear… The main issue I see with that is that segregating a precise number of tickets, be that absolute or percentage, isn't going to be possible in every stadium (or any stadium). Our current away section is roughly 1,800 I believe. To give away fans any more, they'd have to have the whole next block. It will be a similar story everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, Illgresi said: The main issue I see with that is that segregating a precise number of tickets, be that absolute or percentage, isn't going to be possible in every stadium (or any stadium). Our current away section is roughly 1,800 I believe. To give away fans any more, they'd have to have the whole next block. It will be a similar story everywhere. Bingo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, kent_don said: Something like this not work? All clubs put up 1,000 tickets for away fans minmimum. - if by x date they aren’t sold or the away club agree then it can be reduced and given to home fans - clubs are free to negotiate more In respect of segregation that is a non-starter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, pansjambo said: They are Aye but how much will it cost me? Only joking (and playing to the stereotype). I'm happy to pay money to anyone outside the OF. Edited May 5, 2023 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 When loyalty points first came on the go, were they not on a two year rolling rotation so that there wasn't a case of folk building up enormous points balances and it was rewarding folk who had been attending the most in recent times. I'm torn as to whether DNA should be counted towards loyalty points, I can see why they are , but to put it simply, a lot of folk can't afford both an ST and AberDNA. I have neither so I have no beef about not getting a Hearts ticket. It does seem that with these new categories of AberDNA being on the go as well it's increasingly about folk being able to buy their way into these games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansjambo Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Aye but how much will it cost me? Only joking (and playing to the stereotype). I'm happy to pay money to anyone outside the OF. £12.99 officially...other options free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_don Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Illgresi said: The main issue I see with that is that segregating a precise number of tickets, be that absolute or percentage, isn't going to be possible in every stadium (or any stadium). Our current away section is roughly 1,800 I believe. To give away fans any more, they'd have to have the whole next block. It will be a similar story everywhere. 2 hours ago, kingjoey said: In respect of segregation that is a non-starter. I hadn’t gone into too much detail in my head. A loose suggestion based on the top flight grounds I have been to. Usually you are either: - in a seperate stand altogether - where likely you’d carry on as is - you are only separated by dodgy tarpaulin which can seems to have some movement left/right on it… In the second case you lose roughly the same seats you do anyway by that tarpaulin and tickets would have to be rounded to the nearest column. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Thoughts with the "am aff to Cove!" mob. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Thoughts with the "am aff to Cove!" mob. Lol. Aye, they can f**k off to League One. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, kent_don said: I hadn’t gone into too much detail in my head. A loose suggestion based on the top flight grounds I have been to. Usually you are either: - in a seperate stand altogether - where likely you’d carry on as is - you are only separated by dodgy tarpaulin which can seems to have some movement left/right on it… In the second case you lose roughly the same seats you do anyway by that tarpaulin and tickets would have to be rounded to the nearest column. It might at some grounds but if you take the position at Pittodrie, if Ross County only sell 400 of the away allocation of 1700 or so, there's no way that the remaining 1300 could be given to home fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, kingjoey said: It might at some grounds but if you take the position at Pittodrie, if Ross County only sell 400 of the away allocation of 1700 or so, there's no way that the remaining 1300 could be given to home fans. If you take the example of Ross County bringing 400 fans...could they not be housed in the main stand? Same as we do for European diddies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, Illgresi said: If you take the example of Ross County bringing 400 fans...could they not be housed in the main stand? Same as we do for European diddies? That's going down the road of moving season ticket holders. Seems like a big fuss is being created over something that's going to be a fairly irregular occurrence over the course of a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Illgresi said: If you take the example of Ross County bringing 400 fans...could they not be housed in the main stand? Same as we do for European diddies? You're not giving up, are you? So after they sell only 400 of the 1700 tickets that we give them for the South Stand, in the few days before the game you propose that all these South Stand tickets are magically transferred to the Main Stand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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