HibeeJibee Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 You can sort of understand it from a Radio Clyde perspective - as they're a commercial organisation and they cover a regional heavily populated with OF fans. In contrast the BBC are a public service broadcaster and their national coverage is going out to a populace of whom over half aren't OF supporters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: You can sort of understand it from a Radio Clyde perspective - as they're a commercial organisation and they cover a regional heavily populated with OF fans. In contrast the BBC are a public service broadcaster and their national coverage is going out to a populace of whom over half aren't OF supporters. In a similar way to the fact that the political output of the balanced BBC is largely lead by the lines taken by highly partisan newspapers, the subjects covered by Sportsound are pretty much led by the lines taken by tabloids that have a massive bias towards OF coverage for commercial reasons. For Sportsound to cover "the rest" with any sense of proportion would require them to become a sports news-gathering organisation which doesn't seem to be a focus for BBC Scotland. Instead, they produce a cheap programme that effectively discusses what's in the Record that day and is an easy way to fill a schedule. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Maybe a fair point. I rarely if ever listen to it myself now - for much the reasons mentioned - but if it's on 5 nights with 6 items a day = 30 items, then it certainly isn't proportional to the typical attendance over fortnight, which (expressed "from 1,000 people") is:(2016-17) 219 ... Celtic 197 ... Rangers 65 ... Hearts 62 ... Hibs 50 ... Aberdeen 26 ... Dundee Utd 26 ... Dundee 20 ... Kilmarnock 20 ... Falkirk 18 ... Motherwell 18 ... Dunfermline 18 ... St Johnstone 17 ... Partick 16 ... Ross County 16 ... Inverness 14 ... St Mirren 11 ... Raith 10 ... Hamilton 29 ... rest of Championship 23 ... SPFL1 22 ... SPFL2 104 ... non-league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Maybe a fair point. I rarely if ever listen to it myself now - for much the reasons mentioned - but if it's on 5 nights with 6 items a day = 30 items, then it certainly isn't proportional to the typical attendance over fortnight, which (expressed "from 1,000 people") is:(2016-17) 219 ... Celtic 197 ... Rangers 65 ... Hearts 62 ... Hibs 50 ... Aberdeen 26 ... Dundee Utd 26 ... Dundee 20 ... Kilmarnock 20 ... Falkirk 18 ... Motherwell 18 ... Dunfermline 18 ... St Johnstone 17 ... Partick 16 ... Ross County 16 ... Inverness 14 ... St Mirren 11 ... Raith 10 ... Hamilton 29 ... rest of Championship 23 ... SPFL1 22 ... SPFL2 104 ... non-league I've also given up on it. It's absolute dross.From experience, writing and complaining is completely pointless. You can only complain about aspects of a single programme rather than the overall content and quality of the entire show over weeks, months and years. The complaint is then passed on to BBC Scotland - so essentially the part of the BBC who are happily churning out this dreadful stuff - who send a standard response saying everything is wonderful and everyone loves it and the problem is obviously you. Their complaints procedure is an absolute joke.f**k BBC Scotland. A shower of c***s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: I've also given up on it. It's absolute dross. From experience, writing and complaining is completely pointless. You can only complain about aspects of a single programme rather than the overall content and quality of the entire show over weeks, months and years. The complaint is then passed on to BBC Scotland - so essentially the part of the BBC who are happily churning out this dreadful stuff - who send a standard response saying everything is wonderful and everyone loves it and the problem is obviously you. Their complaints procedure is an absolute joke. f**k BBC Scotland. A shower of c***s. I've also given up on the show - really dreadful these days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 BBC 'Scotland' is supposed to cover Scottish football. They aren't meant to cover 'Scottish football based on the number of fans that go and watch a team'. It's a reason the tv tax exists. Their content should quite simply be driven by the league tables, plural, and the up and coming fixtures. They are uniquely positioned to give great coverage to eg a crucial League One fixture but choose not to. They quite simply fail miserably to do their job, cause more damage to the game than good and are just not fit for their purpose. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 BBC 'Scotland' is supposed to cover Scottish football. They aren't meant to cover 'Scottish football based on the number of fans that go and watch a team'. It's a reason the tv tax exists. Their content should quite simply be driven by the league tables, plural, and the up and coming fixtures. They are uniquely positioned to give great coverage to eg a crucial League One fixture but choose not to. They quite simply fail miserably to do their job, cause more damage to the game than good and are just not fit for their purpose. Instead they are catering purely for armchair type fans. It's Sevco/Celtic/Sevco/Celtic and then some English Premiership scores. It's a pile of absolute steaming shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: The Guardian one does a bit (though I prefer it when they don't!). Their focus is the Premiership and the Euro leagues in the main though. https://www.theguardian.com/football/series/footballweekly https://audioboom.com/channel/the-totally-football-show-with-james-richardson There are other ways to listen to both. I think both out Mon/Thurs. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 They often list the English Premier League scores before even mentioning our Championship games and below. I struggle to find any redeeming features in the show. I even dislike the things that are regularly listed as positives in this thread (Richard Gordon, Tom English etc). Gordon seems to have gone native in recent times. Even the Saturday shows - which I listen to on the way back up to the house after games - are fucking shite. Waffle on about Celtic and their unbeaten domestic record *yawn*, then straight into Yer Da Radio with Off The Ball. No time for going round the grounds for a round-up, then some more detailed interviews. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 hours ago, 7-2 said: The only balancing these c***s do is trying to ensure there's almost as much green bigot coverage as blue. That genuinely will be the extent of concern they entertain over questions of balance. For far too many, giving equal attention to two teams while ignoring dozens of others really will equate to ensuring balance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 hours ago, 7-2 said: BBC 'Scotland' is supposed to cover Scottish football. They aren't meant to cover 'Scottish football based on the number of fans that go and watch a team'. It's a reason the tv tax exists. Their content should quite simply be driven by the league tables, plural, and the up and coming fixtures. They are uniquely positioned to give great coverage to eg a crucial League One fixture but choose not to. They quite simply fail miserably to do their job, cause more damage to the game than good and are just not fit for their purpose. Fair point - interest and minority stories, not just by proportions. My point was really that they're not even giving proportional coverage though - they give more to OF than their proportions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 58 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Fair point - interest and minority stories, not just by proportions. My point was really that they're not even giving proportional coverage though - they give more to OF than their proportions. They shouldn't be proportioning anything though. If a situation demands a lot of coverage, give it. appropriately. They shouldn't be thinking 'we've covered x a lot so we'd better cover y to make up for it'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Terrace is OK but Soccer FM is much better and funnier. Terrace focuses heavily on Celtic and Rangers despite what they say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Pat Bonnar saying both of Celtic's penalty awards in the last two game were correct.. Thick as shite in the neck of a bottle. Edited December 2, 2017 by paranoid android 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 That's a sacking offence 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 9 hours ago, paranoid android said: Pat Bonnar saying both of Celtic's penalty awards in the last two game were correct.. Thick as shite in the neck of a bottle. Hearing him lose the plot when Barry Wilson said McGregor had dived was wonderful. His outright bias in favour of Celtic should be an embarrassment to the BBC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 9 hours ago, paranoid android said: Pat Bonnar saying both of Celtic's penalty awards in the last two game were correct.. Thick as shite in the neck of a bottle. 1 minute ago, velo army said: Hearing him lose the plot when Barry Wilson said McGregor had dived was wonderful. His outright bias in favour of Celtic should be an embarrassment to the BBC. That was absolutely wild. He wasn't for letting anyone else get a word in either. His incredulity at Barry Wilson was tremendous listening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Pat Bonnar today claimed you can bring on a sub goalie after you have used the 3 regulation substitutions because it's a specialist position. To be fair to the rest of the pundits they did rip the pish out of him for it, even Chico was having a go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gastropod Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 10 hours ago, paranoid android said: Pat Bonnar saying both of Celtic's penalty awards in the last two game were correct.. Thick as shite in the neck of a bottle. Im not sure what im even watching anymore...Its like making a f@cking story around an incident to justify the outcome ..There is the exact same "contact " every time at a corner etc , and worse , but very few seem to hit the deck as if hit by a sniper ..Would be good to ask Bonner at a live game why 18 people don,t fall over in the box at a set piece while all making contact..The games fukt if a player says " i felt contact so i went down "........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfishtrombone Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) I got irrationally annoyed at Bonner today. It was his absoloute ignorance of any of the Motherwell players names. Edited December 3, 2017 by Swordfishtrombone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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