DiegoDiego Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 How many of their managers who racked up league titles have been successful elsewhere without the benefit of a massive financial advantage over their competitors?Postecoglou at Yokohama? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Not the thread for it, but to go with the topic at hand - I’ve seen a fair few Celtic pointing to their “net spend” for the season to try imply that this is some miraculous title win. Complete gimps missing the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, DiegoDiego said: Postecoglou at Yokohama? Are Yokohama not the 2nd most successful team in the history of Japanese football behind the Antlers ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Are Yokohama not the 2nd most successful team in the history of Japanese football behind the Antlers ? No idea, to be honest, but they'd gone fifteen years without a league title before Postecoglou won it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: It’s not really a farce. Yes, he has a big budget but he’s clearly done an excellent job. I think it undermines genuine complaints to say otherwise. i can’t think of any other real standout candidate either. No fan of either of the uglies but it has to be said that a Scottish club getting to a major European final is a greater acheivement than Celtic or Rangers winning the Scottish League. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: It’s not really a farce. Yes, he has a big budget but he’s clearly done an excellent job. I think it undermines genuine complaints to say otherwise. i can’t think of any other real standout candidate either. Arbroath manager excluded , duh ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jammyp Posted May 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2022 Manager comes in, has a look where improvements need to be made, Spends as much as he can on players he already knows (which is far more than anyone else). Wins league by not a great distance. Just brush over the embarrassment in Europe. It's the stuff dreams are made of. Is there anything less interesting than Celtic getting awards for doing exactly what they should be doing and no more. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CoF Posted May 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: It’s not really a farce. Yes, he has a big budget but he’s clearly done an excellent job. I think it undermines genuine complaints to say otherwise. i can’t think of any other real standout candidate either. 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: I think some people have underestimated how good the recruitment has been since he came in Especially after the clear out we had last year He came in relevantly late with no back room staff. Eddie Howe has been quickly forgotten about because of the job he’s done The Manager of the Year should have done something remarkable. He's clearly done a very good job, recruited well, seems like an interesting guy, good for a soundbite blah blah - but what results has he actually achieved that show something special? Won the league cup - well done - beating St Johnstone, Raith Rovers, Hearts and Hibs along the way. Knocked out the Scottish Cup by the only team on their level. Any time he's come up against quality they've more or less failed. He's had five cracks at Rangers - beaten them twice. Real Betis at home was arguably the only 'good' European result - otherwise we've got defeats to Bodo/Glimt, AZ Alkmaar, Bayer Leverkusen, away to Real Betis. What's remarkable about any of this? If an old firm managers wins this award, given the gulf in finances it needs to be something special- an unbeaten league season fair enough, a treble winning season.... fine. But this? When there's a genuinely remarkable and unexpected story been told over at Arbroath - where they aim for survival and every point is truly earned, I do think it's a farce that Ange Postecoglou won both this and the PFA award over Dick Campbell. Utterly, utterly mind boggling. 39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Considering some people genuinely thought Mark Warburton should have been Manager of the Year for winning the second tier with the second-highest budget in the country, there's bound to be a meltdown if Dick Campbell gets it for finishing second. He absolutely should, of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The Manager of the Year should have done something remarkable.No, the manager of the year should just be the best manager of the year. There may be years nobody has done anything remarkable. Of course, this season many remarks have been made about the Grant/Hughes double act, perhaps they could share the award. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: No, the manager of the year should just be the best manager of the year. There may be years nobody has done anything remarkable. Of course, this season many remarks have been made about the Grant/Hughes double act, perhaps they could share the award. Semantics. My point still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 hours ago, CoF said: The Manager of the Year should have done something remarkable. He's clearly done a very good job, recruited well, seems like an interesting guy, good for a soundbite blah blah - but what results has he actually achieved that show something special? Won the league cup - well done - beating St Johnstone, Raith Rovers, Hearts and Hibs along the way. Knocked out the Scottish Cup by the only team on their level. Any time he's come up against quality they've more or less failed. He's had five cracks at Rangers - beaten them twice. Real Betis at home was arguably the only 'good' European result - otherwise we've got defeats to Bodo/Glimt, AZ Alkmaar, Bayer Leverkusen, away to Real Betis. What's remarkable about any of this? If an old firm managers wins this award, given the gulf in finances it needs to be something special- an unbeaten league season fair enough, a treble winning season.... fine. But this? When there's a genuinely remarkable and unexpected story been told over at Arbroath - where they aim for survival and every point is truly earned, I do think it's a farce that Ange Postecoglou won both this and the PFA award over Dick Campbell. Utterly, utterly mind boggling. 3 cracks at Livi-beaten us once. And Livi. Fully deserves his MoTY award for finally being able to beat us imvho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: 3 cracks at Livi-beaten us once. And Livi. Fully deserves his MoTY award for finally being able to beat us imvho. Fair points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Wonder what the story is here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Wonder what the story is here Some right oddballs in the replies asking why's she's tweeting about it instead of calling it out, as if they aren't the same thing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallo24 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 No fan of either of the uglies but it has to be said that a Scottish club getting to a major European final is a greater acheivement than Celtic or Rangers winning the Scottish League.Might be wrong but I thought it was just awarded on games played in domestic football? That’s a whole other discussion in itself though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugbypark Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The Manager of the Year should have done something remarkable. He's clearly done a very good job, recruited well, seems like an interesting guy, good for a soundbite blah blah - but what results has he actually achieved that show something special? Won the league cup - well done - beating St Johnstone, Raith Rovers, Hearts and Hibs along the way. Knocked out the Scottish Cup by the only team on their level. Any time he's come up against quality they've more or less failed. He's had five cracks at Rangers - beaten them twice. Real Betis at home was arguably the only 'good' European result - otherwise we've got defeats to Bodo/Glimt, AZ Alkmaar, Bayer Leverkusen, away to Real Betis. What's remarkable about any of this? If an old firm managers wins this award, given the gulf in finances it needs to be something special- an unbeaten league season fair enough, a treble winning season.... fine. But this? When there's a genuinely remarkable and unexpected story been told over at Arbroath - where they aim for survival and every point is truly earned, I do think it's a farce that Ange Postecoglou won both this and the PFA award over Dick Campbell. Utterly, utterly mind boggling. Absolutely spot on….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A96 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, Gallo24 said: Might be wrong but I thought it was just awarded on games played in domestic football? That’s a whole other discussion in itself though. Why would that be the case ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratelli Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Clown Job said: Wonder what the story is here One of the replies seems to indicate a few folk walked out after some of the jokes made by a guest speaker. Any idea who that was? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Fratelli said: One of the replies seems to indicate a few folk walked out after some of the jokes made by a guest speaker. Any idea who that was? No idea. But I’m sure I heard Tam Cowan say he was attending this event the other day Edit: Actually I’m sure Cowan said it was Alex Ferguson Edited May 8, 2022 by Clown Job 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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