NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Imagine discussing anything with Wasps1 Guys a thick fantasist. I like a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Imagine discussing anything with Wasps1 Guys a thick fantasist. And your point is !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Kelevra Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 St Mirren will be okay, enough people care enough about them. Even going down could be a positive to get everyone pulling in the same direction Falkirk's accounts are very minimal information but turnover is 3.1m and the board say we don't go higher than 60% wages to turnover, safe to say our wages are similar to St Mirren. Teams like St mirren, Dunfermline, Falkirk going down to League 1 is an embarrassment but can be necessary to get a winning team and a winning habit but more importantly get fans enthusiastic about watching a winning team again. I think St Mirren will survive, I agree with Div, they have decent players and they will show this by the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonkeydishwasher Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 St Mirren will be okay, enough people care enough about them. Even going down could be a positive to get everyone pulling in the same direction Falkirk's accounts are very minimal information but turnover is 3.1m and the board say we don't go higher than 60% wages to turnover, safe to say our wages are similar to St Mirren. Teams like St mirren, Dunfermline, Falkirk going down to League 1 is an embarrassment but can be necessary to get a winning team and a winning habit but more importantly get fans enthusiastic about watching a winning team again. I think St Mirren will survive, I agree with Div, they have decent players and they will show this by the end of the season Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonkeydishwasher Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Another quality contribution .And you'll come back that I'm seething or something entirely predictable. Go on be original for once..... Oh, Jimmy boo boo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: St Mirren will be okay, enough people care enough about them. Even going down could be a positive to get everyone pulling in the same direction Falkirk's accounts are very minimal information but turnover is 3.1m and the board say we don't go higher than 60% wages to turnover, safe to say our wages are similar to St Mirren. Teams like St mirren, Dunfermline, Falkirk going down to League 1 is an embarrassment but can be necessary to get a winning team and a winning habit but more importantly get fans enthusiastic about watching a winning team again. I think St Mirren will survive, I agree with Div, they have decent players and they will show this by the end of the season You paint a rosy picture about relegation to League 1 - it's not, it's soul destroying stuff! Relegation is a dreadful experience, especially into the seaside leagues playing in front of a couple of hundred supporters most weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps1 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I hope they survive but am not sure All depends on the Jan window Hope Jack can turn it around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Not confident at all that we can turn this around, we have a losing mentality and I really can see it turning for us. We have some decent young players but that's about it, the majority are useless & don't seen to be too bothered about the mess they have us in. If we manage to escape relegation it would be a good achievement, even writing those words is ridiculous but it's where we are at the moment. Bad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 St Mirren bring a lot more to this league financially than any of the clubs that might be promoted, especially for Morton where we get two home derbies each with well above average crowds. From that perspective, I hope they stay up. I also think that a visit to the seaside leagues may seriously test the resilience of the fan ownership model (albeit that, strictly, they are not as yet in fan ownership) and they could be at risk. I would equally not want to see them in any danger of going out of business. On the other hand, there's the Morton fan in me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Scan Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 14 hours ago, Wasps1 said: Read ma last post unsure of the breakdown off all clubs but am 100% sure that's the top six Mind you have players who are on 1k a week plus and that's a small wage Some are on 2 plus Bollocks Top line £600 and that was last season I would imagine that figure could well be less this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Hucker Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Tonsilitis said: On the other hand, there's the Morton fan in me! ooer Missus.......! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 16 hours ago, Wasps1 said: I don't know exactly all the figures but the top six are Hibs Dundee utd St.mirren Falkirk Dunfermline Raith Hard to believe Falkirk are much bigger than Dunfermline. I'd also say Farid and Nicky Clark are on more than than any Falkirk player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Anyone painting relegation to League 1 as a rosey picture obviously has never seen that happen to their side. It's a disaster for any relatively established club at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Uncle Scan said: Bollocks Top line £600 and that was last season I would imagine that figure could well be less this season Did St Mirren put in the relegation clause? Wish Falkirk had done that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Uncle Scan said: Bollocks Top line £600 and that was last season I would imagine that figure could well be less this season I find it very, very hard to believe that St Mirren's highest paid player last season was on £600 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonnitus Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, CALDERON said: Anyone painting relegation to League 1 as a rosey picture obviously has never seen that happen to their side. It's a disaster for any relatively established club at this level. Going down is absolutely awful, but then you get to play a bunch of roasters and watch some ridiculous scenes (see video at 4:34) for a season - before returning to the reality of 2nd-tier football, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I find it very, very hard to believe that St Mirren's highest paid player last season was on £600 a week. What sort of wage do you think they'd be on?£600 a week might have been a basic salary, with appearance and win bonuses (ha!) etc on top of that.I'd be surprised if St. Mirren's wage bill is the third highest in the league, but I genuinely don't know. I reckon outside of Hibs and Dundee Utd, and the part time teams, most wage budgets will be fairly similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiah Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 We're shit and still beat you twice, very worrying, enjoy league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, houston_bud said: What sort of wage do you think they'd be on? £600 a week might have been a basic salary, with appearance and win bonuses (ha!) etc on top of that. I'd be surprised if St. Mirren's wage bill is the third highest in the league, but I genuinely don't know. I reckon outside of Hibs and Dundee Utd, and the part time teams, most wage budgets will be fairly similar. Just know that if Wasps1 says something, it's false most of the time. The fact that his guesswork sometimes comes true doesn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, CALDERON said: Anyone painting relegation to League 1 as a rosey picture obviously has never seen that happen to their side. It's a disaster for any relatively established club at this level. I remember we (not me in particular) used to slag Hamilton's away support in the top league. Well Peterhead, Stranraer and Albion Rovers might not even be able to match they sort of crowds combined. Home crowds might increase if we actually won some games but even at that we're not guaranteed to win games. It's easy enough to sort out the wage bill because players are mainly on 1 year deals with the exception of a couple. It would be a case of using mainly under 20's with a couple of older guys thrown in. Gordon Scott must be shitting himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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