DiegoDiego Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 you can't deny that "the blame" lies with the individuals who acted unethically for profit.Only if you think that the majority of people wouldn't do the same in their situation.I think rather than power corrupting, power allows people to do the things a great many of us would given the chance.Perhaps that's an overly negative look at humanity, but when folk are given the means, motive and opportunity to do something which benefits them they usually do. I lay the blame more at a system which doesn't do enough to discourage such behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Only if you think that the majority of people wouldn't do the same in their situation. I think rather than power corrupting, power allows people to do the things a great many of us would given the chance. Perhaps that's an overly negative look at humanity, but when folk are given the means, motive and opportunity to do something which benefits them they usually do. I lay the blame more at a system which doesn't do enough to discourage such behaviour. Is the only thing that stops you from fucking up others people's lives is if it's illegal? Pumping up drug prices by 6000% is not fine if there's no law against it. Personal moral responsibility is still a thing, no matter what system you're working in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Latin is to be taught in schools down south they should make Gaelic as part of the cirreculem up here just for the banter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, doulikefish said: Latin is to be taught in schools down south they should make Gaelic as part of the cirreculem up here just for the banter Should concentrate on spelling first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: DWP accused of 'exploiting' benefits claimants with unpaid work trials Claimants get benefits but no extra cash, meaning they are working for below the minimum wag e on placements lasting up to 30 days. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/dwp-accused-exploiting-benefits-claimants-24654638 Re-legalising slavery is probably the logical culmination of all Tory party policies. That's been their aim for a long time. Sorry to keep harping on this, but the shortage of workers will eventually be solved by forcing the unemployed into jobs in exchange for keeping their benefits. Has the idea been floated in the right-wing press yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: That's been their aim for a long time. Sorry to keep harping on this, but the shortage of workers will eventually be solved by forcing the unemployed into jobs in exchange for keeping their benefits. Has the idea been floated in the right-wing press yet? Not quite understanding this. If the unemployed get jobs which is great, why would they need benefits? Also, because of the shortage, wages will be forced higher due to market pressure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, Dawson Park Boy said: Not quite understanding this. DPB: the post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, BFTD said: DPB: the post. Okay, I’ve read the article. I agree that on the trial they should get at least minimum wage for the period worked. Anything less is wrong. The trial is a good idea for both parties but employers should not be able to exploit the situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) And the award for the shiniest turd according to Conservativehome goes to......Liz Truss???? Edited August 2, 2021 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: And the award for the shiniest turd according to Conservativehome goes to......Liz Truss???? THAT IS A DISGRACE!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Not quite understanding this. If the unemployed get jobs which is great, why would they need benefits? Also, because of the shortage, wages will be forced higher due to market pressure. I don't know - maybe you could ask one of the 2.3 MILLION recipients of UC who are employed? Your first line is the least surprising statement I've seen on P&B in quite some time. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 51 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: And the award for the shiniest turd according to Conservativehome goes to......Liz Truss???? Huge vote of confidence there for BoJo from his peers. Served his purpose in that he got Brexit done, now time for him to go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 *Grant Shapps* being miles ahead in a popularity contest ought to be an instant sacking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Michael W said: *Grant Shapps* being miles ahead in a popularity contest ought to be an instant sacking. I was just wondering how many of the other names on that list might be him as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Even though Liz Truss is fucking useless, you get the impression that there'd be daily comedy bulletins featuring her on the news if she was PM, which is surely the reason why Boris was chosen/elected by voters. I'm not sure that competence or moral fibre are much of a consideration for the voting public anymore. Maybe we've just decided that they're all venal idiots, so we might as well elect the most entertaining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Rally round the fleg. Government spending on Union flags soars under Boris Johnson | The Independent £163k is f**k all to be honest but made me laugh at their jingoism. And the flags are more than likely made in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Unelected Legislator and Professional Snake Oil Salesman worried about accusations of English identity being portrayed as "backward" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 England will always have an identity problem until they stop conflating UK/Britain with England. Perfectly highlighted in this article today in the Guardian were they talk about the riots in England 10 years ago in terms of UK and Britain. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/aug/06/the-uk-riots-10-years-on-young-people-were-watching-their-futures-disappear-before-their-eyes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: England will always have an identity problem until they stop conflating UK/Britain with England. Perfectly highlighted in this article today in the Guardian were they talk about the riots in England 10 years ago in terms of UK and Britain. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/aug/06/the-uk-riots-10-years-on-young-people-were-watching-their-futures-disappear-before-their-eyes Surprised at the Guardian for that one. Hopefully someone will get them telt. Like the time Jimmy Hill called rioting Liverpool fans at Heysel, British. "Surely we're all British at a time like this" he moaned to Scots phoning the BBC to complain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: England will always have an identity problem until they stop conflating UK/Britain with England. Perfectly highlighted in this article today in the Guardian were they talk about the riots in England 10 years ago in terms of UK and Britain. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/aug/06/the-uk-riots-10-years-on-young-people-were-watching-their-futures-disappear-before-their-eyes The media coverage of that at the time was "UK riots" as well. Despite the fact a few roasters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland tried to organise stuff on facebook and got stamped out immediately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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