General Politics Thread

[coprolite]

9 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I've said for a long time now this is due in large part to Trade Unions steadfast refusal to drag themselves into the 21st century. This should be boomtime for union membership. 

I don't disagree but i think the biggest factor is globalisation. Uk workforce goes on strike- do workers get a payrise? Nope, factory closes and reopens in Bulgaria.  

 

[Bairnardo]

Just now, coprolite said:

I don't disagree but i think the biggest factor is globalisation. Uk workforce goes on strike- do workers get a payrise? Nope, factory closes and reopens in Bulgaria.  

 

Yeah but trade union members are paid on average 10% more than their non union equivalents. Thats not all been earned through militant action. Its about having a seat at the table and not just gulping down whatever is shovelled your way. Negotiation etc etc. Strikes should be as far from the mind of a union rep as they are from the company at the onset of any negotiation. I personally don't think unions have done enough to encourage that mindset, which would help bring their image more in line with younger folks today. Its never all going to rosey all the time of course, but for me we really dont do ourselves too many favours at a time where making people aware that having a voice is not only beneficial, but easily acheivable, should be like shooting fish ina barrel. 

[coprolite]

47 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Yeah but trade union members are paid on average 10% more than their non union equivalents. Thats not all been earned through militant action. Its about having a seat at the table and not just gulping down whatever is shovelled your way. Negotiation etc etc. Strikes should be as far from the mind of a union rep as they are from the company at the onset of any negotiation. I personally don't think unions have done enough to encourage that mindset, which would help bring their image more in line with younger folks today. Its never all going to rosey all the time of course, but for me we really dont do ourselves too many favours at a time where making people aware that having a voice is not only beneficial, but easily acheivable, should be like shooting fish ina barrel. 

Yes. I'm not in a union anymore- not really a thing in my sector - but when i was most of what we did was about diversity and equality. I'd have thought that would be something the youngsters would get on board with. 

[tamthebam]

It's actually quite hard to have a strike now unless you're very confident of a majority for action in a majority turnout in a ballot.

 

[Hedgecutter]

Have the Lib Dems given up? I've not seen anything from them recently at a time when it should be an open goal for the opposition parties.  So bad that I just had to Google "lib dem leader" to remind myself of who it actually was.  

[doulikefish]

https://twitter.com/alexandreafonso/status/1460989055362125824?t=06yZ_POSiy_jDBSAi5RmVg&s=19

[Suspect Device]

On 13/11/2021 at 13:37, tamthebam said:

It's actually quite hard to have a strike now unless you're very confident of a majority for action in a majority turnout in a ballot.

 

My wife has voted for strike action for the last 3 years after below inflation pay offers. Each time the majority who vote are in favour but the turnout never breaks 50%.

EIS.

[BFTD]

13 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

My wife has voted for strike action for the last 3 years after below inflation pay offers. Each time the majority who vote are in favour but the turnout never breaks 50%.

EIS.

A dildo in her dead arse.

(not your wife; I'm sure she's lovely)

[Antlion]

On 15/11/2021 at 07:16, Hedgecutter said:

Have the Lib Dems given up? I've not seen anything from them recently at a time when it should be an open goal for the opposition parties.  So bad that I just had to Google "lib dem leader" to remind myself of who it actually was.  

Well don’t keep us in suspense - who is it? We need to know who our next Prime Minister is. 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

11 hours ago, Antlion said:

Well don’t keep us in suspense - who is it? We need to know who our next Prime Minister is. 

It's amazing that in less than two years Swinson has gone from our next PM to being the answer to a tie-break question in a pub quiz or, perhaps more appropriately, a Pointless answer where the category is "Leaders of major* UK political parties in the 21st century"

*No sniggering at the back now..

[RiG]

Is Nadine Dorries the UK equivalent of Marjorie Taylor Greene?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59305080

[williemillersmoustache]

42 minutes ago, RiG said:

Is Nadine Dorries the UK equivalent of Marjorie Taylor Greene?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59305080

she said she does not plan "to charge out on a culture war battle"

*a pause*

THOSE FUCKING c***s ON THE LEFT ARE HIJACKING SOSCHAL MEEDJA

 

[sparky88]

Calling Keir Starmer 'Keith' is possibly the worst political patter of all time.

[ICTJohnboy]

Just noticed that Andrew Marr is leaving the BBC to join LBC. 

Not the first to do this of course, but just like Eddie Mair, James O'Brien and others, he wants to have the opportunity to express his own opinions rather than those of the govt appointed board of governors, and the DG.

What a shambles of an organisation.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Calling Keir Starmer 'Keith' is possibly the worst political patter of all time.

Kieth surely?

[O'Kelly Isley III]

9 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

she said she does not plan "to charge out on a culture war battle"

*a pause*

THOSE FUCKING c***s ON THE LEFT ARE HIJACKING SOSCHAL MEEDJA

 

I watched that interview and Dorries overriding tone was very typical of contemporary Tory politician, Tory media and Tory electorate thinking, ie anything or anyone which deviates from their right-wing world view is an aberration, a calumny to be vigorously condemned.

And the reason they get away with this with brazen impunity is because the needle has been so comprehensively pushed rightwards that it has become the default position.  And it will stay there until there is a concerted challenge to it, but who can provide that is a depressing question.  

[Lordofthewing]

14 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

she said she does not plan "to charge out on a culture war battle"

*a pause*

THOSE FUCKING c***s ON THE FAR LEFT ARE HIJACKING SOSCHAL MEEDJA

 

FTFY

[Michael W]

The EU's Brexit negotiator has gone a bit Brexity.

 

[btb]

^{Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru to cooperate on almost 50 policy areas Parties say deal is not coalition but ‘bespoke agreement’ to create a stable Senedd capable of delivering ‘radical change and reform’}

 

Won't happen here!

[HTG]

57 minutes ago, btb said:

^{Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru to cooperate on almost 50 policy areas Parties say deal is not coalition but ‘bespoke agreement’ to create a stable Senedd capable of delivering ‘radical change and reform’}

 

Won't happen here!

It'll screech to a halt in Wales if Plaid look like gaining a level of traction that threatens the wider status quo.