Ludo*1 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Virtual Insanity said: Don't think we'll be taking any lectures from Dundee fans on standing up to charlatans running our football club thank you very much. 6 minutes ago, Plastic Whistle said: Get f*cked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, Virtual Insanity said: Don't think we'll be taking any lectures from Dundee fans on standing up to charlatans running our football club thank you very much. But ,you know he's right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Signed up for TJF this evening. Today's twitter action from the Trust is what tipped me over the edge - we need to get our club back. Interestingly my TJF membership number is into the 900s. If they're sequential, that suggests that around 150+ people have joined in the last day or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Uncle Psychosis said: Signed up for TJF this evening. Today's twitter action from the Trust is what tipped me over the edge - we need to get our club back. Interestingly my TJF membership number is into the 900s. If they're sequential, that suggests that around 150+ people have joined in the last day or so. A few folk have picked this up! If people have payment problems, or lapse/quit but rejoin, they get given a new membership number when they fill in the membership form afresh. We then merge their records but one of their numbers doesn’t get reused. We’re around about 780 members or so at the moment. Which is still about 150 or so more than when 3BC gave us the boot last week, but not quite as many as the above! It is fair to say, however, that 3BC and the PTFC Trust reboot have been pretty good recruiting tools. We should really be thanking them… Edited August 19, 2022 by Ad Lib 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 As to how this all plays out, my bet is that the club/3BC simply clams up about it all and hopes it becomes another stooshie that's been had, oh dear what a shame, never mind, eat yer dinner. That's apparently been their approach throughout this whole affair, as reported by The Jags Foundation once the gag was off. Limited information released via diktat, elusive on the requirements of any fan led bid, high handedness when dealing with the Foundation and so on. Do the fans have the bottle to seriously challenge this? We'll see soon enough... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistledo Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, archie guevara said: As to how this all plays out, my bet is that the club/3BC simply clams up about it all and hopes it becomes another stooshie that's been had, oh dear what a shame, never mind, eat yer dinner. That's apparently been their approach throughout this whole affair, as reported by The Jags Foundation once the gag was off. Limited information released via diktat, elusive on the requirements of any fan led bid, high handedness when dealing with the Foundation and so on. Do the fans have the bottle to seriously challenge this? We'll see soon enough... I'd really hate to be one of those "I won't be back" fans, but honestly I think it might come to that. To say I've not been impressed with Low's antics from the beginning is an understatement, where we are now is just a horror show. I know if a few others that don't go anymore, could fully see this being the straw that broke the camels back for a lot more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, archie guevara said: Do the fans have the bottle to seriously challenge this? We'll see soon enough... Low and the Trust gang are hoping that we don’t and that the animosity will all just fade away within a week or so. And in the past I think they might have been right, but this time it feels a bit different. Now that we have a vehicle like TJF to keep everyone informed and engaged, hopefully we can keep the pressure on until these b*****ds realise this isn’t going to work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I'm not confident of "fixing it" unless we somehow get the national media and bigger fan groups interested. The tale is quite convoluted so needs a proper public airing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Now I've bought my season ticket Im not sure what the point in boycotting is but I'll not be bothering with cup games or putting any extra money into the club and will support any organised action. I've noticed even some fans who were 'i only care about matters on the pitch' seem incredibly pissed off so I'd hope the foundation can capitalise on that if they decide to go down the route of taking any sort of action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Nightmare said: Low and the Trust gang are hoping that we don’t and that the animosity will all just fade away within a week or so. And in the past I think they might have been right, but this time it feels a bit different. Now that we have a vehicle like TJF to keep everyone informed and engaged, hopefully we can keep the pressure on until these b*****ds realise this isn’t going to work. One of the many problems with Low's stranglehold is that she appears to have (utterly cynically) spun TJF along while the season ticket money was coming in, only to drop them and implement her permanent power grab once the money was banked. A clever move as it gives her and her lickspittles a year to ride out the discontent and (she hopes) let the anger dissipate. Uncle Psychosis is right that what she has done is quite complicated so there will be plenty of folk who just take it at face value. There may be a dip in home attendances with PATG fans boycotting and season ticketers who have already paid not going - but I doubt that would be enough to force her out. Depressing times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Club have backed down over the foundation being allowed in the stadium. All thanks to the Thistle Trust of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 So, who’s organising the protests? Tonight would feel like a good opportunity for something with TV cameras in attendance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeodhasXD Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Asked last night to the Jags Foundation that if they took over can they unblock me while identifying myself as working for Alloa. Magically this morning I am unblocked. Can only assume someone is watching the comments and shitting themselves at every avenue they can be criticised. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, VictorOnopko said: One of the many problems with Low's stranglehold is that she appears to have (utterly cynically) spun TJF along while the season ticket money was coming in, only to drop them and implement her permanent power grab once the money was banked. I may be very naïve but that seems overly cynical. I think it's much more likely that they were busy doing some scenery rearrangement so that as one door was closed, another opened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy-T Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 This can only end in one of two ways. 1. Without additional income the club stagnates, goes backwards, moves into financial trouble and the fans have to save it. Again. 2. The board/PTFC Trust realise the unsustainability of the current set up and engage maturely with The Jags Foundation, allowing proper fan ownership as any reasonable person would define it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Mediocre Pundit said: So, who’s organising the protests? Tonight would feel like a good opportunity for something with TV cameras in attendance. I'll do it. Don't go tonight. No PATG money, no kiosk sales, no half time draw money. Empty stands on TV. Will send shockwaves through the Board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jaggy-T said: This can only end in one of two ways. 1. Without additional income the club stagnates, goes backwards, moves into financial trouble and the fans have to save it. Again. 2. The board/PTFC Trust realise the unsustainability of the current set up and engage maturely with The Jags Foundation, allowing proper fan ownership as any reasonable person would define it. Yep, but considering the egos involved, good luck with option 2. She’ll drag the club under before she cedes control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Arnold Layne said: I'll do it. Don't go tonight. No PATG money, no kiosk sales, no half time draw money. Empty stands on TV. Will send shockwaves through the Board. You would need quite a lot of people who were actually prepared to go tonight to turn away. Our TV games in recent times have notoriously been low crowds anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Email update from The Jags Foundation The TJF match-day stalls are back Common sense has prevailed. This morning Jacqui Low contacted the Foundation on behalf of the Club Board and advised that, after all, The Jags Foundation would be permitted to have stalls in the John Lambie and Jackie Husband Stands as before. This is the correct decision, and we are grateful to those who clearly understood the ridiculousness of the situation and urged a change of course. This means that we will be able to distribute McParland Pins as originally planned this evening. We intend to have our stalls set-up in their usual places on the concourses from around 7:15pm up until kick-off. We know that feelings have run high in recent weeks, because Thistle fans feel very strongly about what is right for our club. We had previously urged the Club and Three Black Cats to work with us on a joint statement urging moderation and respect for other members of the wider Thistle community. This was declined at the time. We hope that this decision signals a move in that direction on their part. For the avoidance of doubt, we urge everyone to conduct themselves respectfully towards their fellow fans, and encourage them to listen to what the PTFC Trustees have to say and to engage with them civilly and politely. They deserve a fair hearing, even though we have grave reservations about what they have planned for our club and how those proposals were arrived at. Now, our own attentions turn to the match itself, where we will all be hoping that Ian McCall’s men can secure three points and get our league campaign heading in the right direction. These people have the patience of saints. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, JagsCG said: You would need quite a lot of people who were actually prepared to go tonight to turn away. Our TV games in recent times have notoriously been low crowds anyway. I agree. You would need quite a lot of people to buy into any protest to make it effective. Not turning up tonight is the easiest from protest that is possible organise, especially at short notice. No doubt, the Board will have a keen eye on tonight. Any half-arsed protest will be seen by them as a victory. The future of our club is in our hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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