The Partick Thistle thread

[JudgeMudge]

If we beat Arbroath and Morton don’t beat Queens then we’re guaranteed play-offs, correct?

[Highlandmagar]

53 minutes ago, JudgeMudge said:

If we beat Arbroath and Morton don’t beat Queens then we’re guaranteed play-offs, correct?

Nope. If Ayr win, it goes down to last day.

[oneteaminglasgow]

1 hour ago, JudgeMudge said:

If we beat Arbroath and Morton don’t beat Queens then we’re guaranteed play-offs, correct?

Not quite mathematically, but more or less aye I think. There’d still be a situation where we could miss out but it would involve Raith putting 14 or 15 goals past us and Caley and Ayr drawing. 

[Mediocre Pundit]

So this new conference league monstrosity - assume Thistle get a vote on it per SPFL voting guidelines? Has there been any word on whether we’re in favour or against it - either from club or from Jags Foundation as representatives of the fans?

[EwanMubs25]

4 hours ago, Mediocre Pundit said:

So this new conference league monstrosity - assume Thistle get a vote on it per SPFL voting guidelines? Has there been any word on whether we’re in favour or against it - either from club or from Jags Foundation as representatives of the fans?

What would be the the best way to make our voices heard - assuming that most fans agree it’s a farce - and put pressure on the club to vote against it?

[Derry Alli]

Seeing as it is now mathematically impossible for you guys to finish above - or level - with Dundee this season I am here politely asking the Thistle fan who made the £100 charity bet after the first game of the season with Dundee about final placings to kindly pay up.

Link to charity.

Thank you, @Thistle4eva

[Thistle4eva]

5 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

Seeing as it is now mathematically impossible for you guys to finish above - or level - with Dundee this season I am here politely asking the Thistle fan who made the £100 charity bet after the first game of the season with Dundee about final placings to kindly pay up.

Link to charity.

Thank you, @Thistle4eva

It will be paid, I haven’t been on this I only came on when I realised . I’ll be sure to send you a message once I have paid it. I’d say congrats but I genuinely wouldn’t mean it .

[JagsCG]

1 minute ago, th1stleandr0se said:

Definitely in a play-off spot as Inverness play Ayr on Friday. They can't both pass Thistle.

If we lose and Morton win (with ICT/Ayr winning) we’d be 5th. Play-offs aren’t guaranteed yet.

Bizarrely we go into the last game with the ability of ending both 2nd and 5th. Hopefully it’s the former 

Edited April 29, 2023 by JagsCG

[Thistle4eva]

1 minute ago, th1stleandr0se said:

Definitely in a play-off spot as Inverness play Ayr on Friday. They can't both pass Thistle.

Ayr/ict and morton can though

[Thistle4eva]

We need a point next week to guarantee play offs.

[JudgeMudge]

Think it was better overall how it’s turned out. Could’ve guaranteed 3/4th and avoided any nerves on Friday. But chances of promotion there would be really limited. Second place is the best chance, and it’s a pretty good one, as would be surprised if Queens win and Raith have nothing to play for. 

[The Thistle Archive]

Bookmark The Thistle Archive home page to keep up to date with all of our past and present news...     BLANKETY-BLANK CAMPBELL MAKES HISTORY

● It's 3 direct goal involvements in 3 consecutive games for the sublime Steven Lawless.

● It's 5 direct goal involvements in his last 4 games for Scott Tiffoney. Livewire.

● Kyle Turner nets his first-ever brace as a Jag.

● Kris Doolan's Jags have yet to concede in the opening 45 of any match at Firhill and remain unbeaten in the Maryhill heartlands.

● Thistle blank out Arbroath for the 4th time in the League this season. It's the first complete League goal-blanking since Alan Archibald's Jags did so versus Dundee in 2016-17.

● Incredibly, Thistle register their sixth consecutive clean-sheet versus Arbroath. It's only the second time in history Thistle have done so against any one club, the record run (10) being set versus Montrose in 2021.

● Dick Campbell becomes the first manager in history to go six games without a goal versus Partick Thistle.

● Partick Thistle go into the final League game of the season as top scorers in the Championship (63) but, mathematically, could still finish anywhere from 2nd to 6th. Cinch.

ongoing sequences:

● 5 competitive games without defeat, 1st Apr 2023 to date. (Longest run since: 6 games, 18th Feb 2023 to 18th Mar 2023. Joint club-record: 16 games, 15th Nov 1975 to 21st Feb 1976 & 30th Sep 2000 to 13th Jan 2001.)

● 5 competitive home games without defeat; 4th Mar 2023 to date. (Longest run since: 6 games; 26th Nov 2022 to 21st Jan 2023. Club-record: 24 games; 5th May 2001 to 17th Aug 2002.)

● 45 consecutive competitive appearances for Jack McMillan, 9th Jul 2022 to date, a new personal best. (Longest run since: James Penrice - 51 games, 7th Sep 2019 to 10th Apr 2021. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games, 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)

[The Thistle Archive]

Reserves database re-launched →

As many of you may know, we launched our Reserves section back in January (up to 1890-91) and promised there'd be much more to follow soon. We (well, our Jack mainly) had a rethink! Jack's been working on this labour-of-love for many years and, being quite 'Thistle mad' (aren't we all?), he's decided to make it even harder for himself by writing potted reports for thousands of these reserve games to match the same first-team exercise. Well, if a job's worth doing...

Reserve football gets very little coverage. When complete, our Archive will be offering you the most comprehensive record of Thistle’s reserve fixtures, results and team selections ever compiled.

The full Partick Thistle reserves database will be spread over all 143 of the active seasons from 1877 to date, and will include almost 4,000 matches. We won't go so deep as to have complex match hubs for each game, but we'll fill the season-by-season pages with lots of good basic information wherever possible, including players and scorers if we can. A results summary table will be included at the footer of every season for your 'at-a-glance' analysis benefit.

Today's "re-launch" now runs to 1898-99 (the first League season) at the moment, and you'll see that these re-designed pages now house a dedicated (dark blue) line for potted match reports wherever possible. In these early years you will note a great many games you never knew we played against loads of teams you've never heard of (neither had we)! Links below:

1875-76 (Reserves), 1876-77 (Reserves), 1877-78 (Reserves), 1878-79 (Reserves), 1879-80 (Reserves), 1880-81 (Reserves), 1881-82 (Reserves), 1882-83 (Reserves), 1883-84 (Reserves), 1884-85 (Reserves), 1885-86 (Reserves), 1886-87 (Reserves), 1887-88 (Reserves), 1888-89 (Reserves), 1889-90 (Reserves), 1890-91 (Reserves), 1891-92 (Reserves), 1892-93 (Reserves), 1893-94 (Reserves), 1894-95 (Reserves), 1895-96 (Reserves), 1896-97 (Reserves), 1897-98 (Reserves), 1898-99 (Reserves).

The vast majority of fixtures we'll be loading over the next few months relate to seasons where shirt numbers actually meant something so look out for players who started in one or more position(s), yet became a club legend in another.

Watch too for scoring feats that barely got a mention – the mysterious “Phillips” who scored 8 against Brechin city on 23/2/1929 yet there is no record he ever played for the club again and McKay’s first half 5-goal haul against Falkirk on 14/12/1929. Who were the hundreds of unknown trialists? Did they ever make the grade?

Compilation is hampered by lack of coverage but the search goes on. In the meantime we must pay tribute to the club’s Honorary President Robert Reid for the hundreds of reserve match reports published in club programmes over the seasons. These will form the basis of many of the potted reports.

Enjoy!

 

[jagfox]

The most interesting take from the shirt sponsorship day, for me, was that quite a few players stated the disappointment at not winning the title this year.

Aero and Lawless, spring to mind.

There was still an air of confidence, not arrogance, which was good to see. 

[The Thistle Archive]

So, operation 'PTFC player I.D.' hits the jackpot... our J. Caldwell (second from back left in pic) turns out to be JOHN CALDWELL, winner of the first-ever Argentinian League Championship with St Andrew's AC in 1891!

As the main author (Iain Campbell Whittle) put it:

One evening, indeed overnight, an e-mail came in and when in the morning I opened it I found a treasure-trove that had been sitting in Glasgow for a century. It, the e-mail, had been sent by John Caldwell's great-grandson, Kenneth, and it contained not just material John had brought back with him after forty years working on the railways in Argentina, but his memories of the role he had in the Scottish game both before he left for Buenos Aires, Rosario and the Argentine interior and glimpses of his continued involvement on his return.

Our latest 'Partickle' delves in to a remarkable journey...

Campeones: The John Caldwell Story →

 

[johnnydun]

Best of luck to Glasgow's good guys in the play offs.

Here's hoping you get to Sword a DAB or a Fermer on the way up!

[Poet of the Macabre]

Going to have to beat the curse of finishing 4th in the Championship.

Every side finishing 4th has lost the quarter-final tie since these play-offs were introduced for the end of the 2013/2014 season.

In fact, Queen of the South in 13/14 and Raith Rovers in 15/16 are the only seasons the 4th placed side has even won one of the two legs!

[velo army]

We finished 4th in the seaside league and got promoted easily (ahem).

We'll skoosh this 

[Mediocre Pundit]

The only consolation of the results last night is that it meant Morton missed out on goal difference…

[The Thistle Archive]

Most of the post-Raith updates are in place on the Archive, still managing to include a video for all 49 games so far, home page news →     A COSTLY DRAW

● Jack McMillan completes the 2022-23 League season as an ever-present for Partick Thistle, with 36 appearances. He's the first to do so since James Penrice and Blair Spittal, both of whom registered the feat in 2018-19.

● Goalkeeper David Mitchell hits a new personal best of 10 consecutive competitive appearances for Thistle.

● Darren Brownlie scores his first League goal for Partick Thistle.

● Bizarrely, Thistle have only conceded 3 penalties in the League all season, with Raith Rovers being the beneficiaries on 3 separate occasions!

● It's 6 direct goal involvements in his last 5 games for the on-form Scott Tiffoney.

● For the fifth consecutive game, all Partick Thistle appearances are attributed to Scottish-born players. It's the longest stretch since a run of 6-in-a-row from 11th January 2011 to 12th February 2011.

● Thistle go 8 competitive away games without a win at Stark's Park (2011 to date), the worst run since the H2H record (12) was set in 1927.

● The lack of a winning goal cost the club £150,000 in prize money, this being the difference between finishing second (£475,000) and fourth (£325,000).

● It's been a season of missed opportunities for Thistle as Dundee become the worst second tier champions in Scottish football history. The points-per-game ratio (1.75) of the Dens Park club falls below Ayr United's ratio of 1912-13 (1.808) when 3 pts per win are applied across all eras.

● For the first time since 1935. Queen's Park finish above Partick Thistle in the League. The two sides will now meet in the play-offs on Tuesday night at Firhill.

● Kris Doolan finishes as the top Championship manager in terms of points earned per game. His total (1.85 ppg) is ahead of 2nd placed Gary Bowyer of Dundee (1.75 ppg). Doolan's predecessor, Ian McCall (1.43 ppg), was well off the pace this season in 7th. Paul Hartley (0.59 ppg) was an outstanding disaster, marooned at the bottom.

ongoing sequences:

● 5 competitive home games without defeat; 4th Mar 2023 to date. (Longest run since: 6 games; 26th Nov 2022 to 21st Jan 2023. Club-record: 24 games; 5th May 2001 to 17th Aug 2002.)

● 6 competitive games without defeat, 1st Apr 2023 to date. (Longest run since: 6 games, 18th Feb 2023 to 18th Mar 2023. Joint club-record: 16 games, 15th Nov 1975 to 21st Feb 1976 & 30th Sep 2000 to 13th Jan 2001.)

● 46 consecutive competitive appearances for Jack McMillan, 9th Jul 2022 to date, a new personal best. (Longest run since: James Penrice - 51 games, 7th Sep 2019 to 10th Apr 2021. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games, 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)