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1 minute ago, Griff Sheridan said:

Those were my thoughts, but then I struggled to think what the next target should be? Top 6 again, fourth place, third?!? Or a Cup Final / Win.

Would one Cup Final appearance in our lifetime be too much to ask?

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I think our time will come in the cups but f**k knows when. Going by the law of fucking averages we are due a cup final or atleast a semi...we can't even reach a semi, viagra anyone ?

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Reaching top 6 is the perennial goal for us with the way the club is run, the fan base, no bank debt and young players coming through etc. if we can then reach a cup final or two then that's gravy and I agree we are due one. But the management team and players need to focus on each game as a team and working hard individually on their fitness, diet and discipline as athletes. Good management in board and coaching is what gets us stability. That's how we maintain this as a club. Amazing to see the changes in the ethos at the club since the era of Dick Campbell in the old 2nd division or even farther back when I was a kid and the save the jags campaign.
Exciting times to be a Jags fan! [emoji1045][emoji1591]

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To show progress season by season gets harder and harder I don't think there is any doubt about that. 

First target upon promotion was to avoid relegation, then establish ourselves as a Premeirship club and then finish top six. 

I guess the next stage will to become, like St Johnstone, an established top six side. Not an easy task at all given that, despite an apparent financial stability, we are unlikely to ever be at the top end of the budgetry scales. 

A cup win or even a final appearance could possibly be sign of continued progress but what if that went alongside a drop in league position? 

For me an indication of the progress the Club has made can be seen in the infrastructure now in place. We seem much better now to deal with a really bad season. You can't see the Club imploding now like we did when we were last relegated from the top flight. 

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Yeah spot on it's about stability now and trying to do something similar to what St.Johnstone have done. It's a really big ask to do that but, even if we don't  do that I can't see us implode or, be anywhere near the bottom of the league especially if Arch and our key players stay. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, John MacLean said:

For me an indication of the progress the Club has made can be seen in the infrastructure now in place. We seem much better now to deal with a really bad season. You can't see the Club imploding now like we did when we were last relegated from the top flight. 

The fact that we have an actual structure in place now at the club will go a long way to preventing that sort of implosion again. When we were up here before, it was Lambie and his collection of short-term signings that had got us there, so when we lost a few pieces from that (including Lambie himself) we had no clue what to do. Now we have the youth academy, good players coming through, an actual scouting network in place and everything off the field seems a lot more professional in general. Even if we do eventually lose Archie and his staff, which is inevitable at some point, the club itself won't completely fall apart this time around.

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56 minutes ago, Funky Nosejob said:

A fleeting visit from a long-time absentee just to say

"f**k you, Pat Bonner!".

I remember being seething about that at the time. Not because he tipped us for relegation, but because he was too thick and ignorant to realise that we weren't actually fighting relegation last season.

He's a complete embarrassment of a man. Only Chick Young is close to being as incompetent as him.

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Pat Bonner is probably worse at his job than Chick Young.

He's more likable than Chick, in that he's kind of like a harmless, senile pensioner rather than a complete arsehole, but a guy who is getting paid to talk exclusively about football in a 12-team league, and not knowing a single player on 9 or 10 of the teams, is genuinely disgraceful.

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5 hours ago, John MacLean said:

A cup win or even a final appearance could possibly be sign of continued progress but what if that went alongside a drop in league position? 

Well, frankly, who cares? I'd happily swap winning the Scottish Cup for getting relegated and spending 5 years in the Championship. Life is about accumulating experiences. Fans of every other club our size have experienced Finals and Cup Wins. You know what? It's a FUCKING SHIT STATE OF AFFAIRS that we haven't. 

 

 

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Yeah, good to see I'm not the only pessimist b*****d who's found the negative and thinking that we've hit our ceiling. Guess the next stage of progression is being comfortably safe early on in the season and finally a cup run. I'll openly admit I'd take relegation with a Scottish cup win but realistically if the team is pish enough to get relegated that's not going to happen.

Think another landmark will happen this close season in that when Lindsay goes, surely it will be our record transfer fee?

 

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With Hibs coming back up you'll have Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers, Hearts and Hibs all likely to take the top 5 spots, so realistically I don't think we can aim higher than 6th in the future. Doesn't sound massively exciting but mid table and the odd cup run is what I'd like to see. 

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5 minutes ago, Nightmare said:

We've got nothing to worry about with Hibs unless they patch the yellow-toothed c**t in the dugout.

Imo, he's actually alright as a manager...it's all the gobshite-ness and playing the victim card that makes him detestable 

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26 minutes ago, Red 'N Yellow said:

With Hibs coming back up you'll have Celtic, Aberdeen, Rangers, Hearts and Hibs all likely to take the top 5 spots, so realistically I don't think we can aim higher than 6th in the future. Doesn't sound massively exciting but mid table and the odd cup run is what I'd like to see. 

I wouldn't worry too much about Hibs, historically over the past two decades theyve been a bottom half side. Sitting 7th in the all time table since the beginning of the SPL in 98/99 if we sort it by "percentage of points won", and 8th in terms of pure points won. The top six over that nearly 20 year period is Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Aberdeen, St Johnstone and ICT. And one of those teams will be in a lower league next season.

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