WC Boggs Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 11 hours ago, tamthebam said: Ah, Scottish football. As most clubs in the Scottish League and beyond know you're only ever one dodgy spiv away from bankruptcy so some haters on here shouldn't be so smug. Heave awa chaps, we're no deid yet. I agree. Sometimes it feels like there's a competition going on, to see which spiv can build a more unsustainable club than Rupert Brookes did at Gretna. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, WC Boggs said: I agree. Sometimes it feels like there's a competition going on, to see which spiv can build a more unsustainable club than Rupert Brookes did at Gretna. The thing with the Gr*tna debacle was though - anyone with even the merest smattering of common sense could see that it was an unsustainable joke and a bubble that would rapidly inflate and burst spectacularly, but the blazers who run our game were happy to let it happen and pan out and of course our smug media thought it was all wonderful fun and couldn't get enough of it. Should the game not have checks and balances/processes to prevent repetition of this sort of thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Jute said: Is ground sharing with Tynecastle at Meggetland not an option. Feel for guys who have supported the team from East of Scotland days. Previous ownership have a lot to answer for. 14 hours ago, kevsmart said: Not especially when you have Boroughmuir playing on the same park every other weekend or the same weekend, if Tynecastle have to play on the Friday evening Plus there are actually 2 different rugby sides using it... Boroughmuir Bears in SRU Super 6 and old Boroughmuir RFC in Scottish National 3... with their own occasional Fri-Sat/Sat-Sun double-headers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMonc Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Slightly surprised this interview went out to be honest. I actually think McIndoe comes across really well here. https://youtu.be/_tXsodq06vY?si=yukoyJrQR2IjFqnf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevchenko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, AllyMonc said: Slightly surprised this interview went out to be honest. I actually think McIndoe comes across really well here. https://youtu.be/_tXsodq06vY?si=yukoyJrQR2IjFqnf 26/27 ‘Dave’s’ in a 6 minute interview takes some going! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Purely going by geography, would there be no chance of doing something with the owners of Lochend - looks plenty of space around the pitch for a stand / some terracing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Could groundshare with Clyde they have been all around Glasgow so might fancy a move to Edinburgh for a change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC THE KNIFE Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 IT CITY DO GO UNDER FINANCIALLY I BET THAT THE SFA/SFL DONT TREAT THEM THE SAME WAY AS A CERTAIN IBROX CLUB WERE. BET IF THEY REFORM THEY WILL B MADE TO PLAY IN THE LOWEST EoS FEEDER LEAGUE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, MAC THE KNIFE said: IT CITY DO GO UNDER FINANCIALLY I BET THAT THE SFA/SFL DONT TREAT THEM THE SAME WAY AS A CERTAIN IBROX CLUB WERE. BET IF THEY REFORM THEY WILL B MADE TO PLAY IN THE LOWEST EoS FEEDER LEAGUE What, put it to a members' vote which club is elected to be club 42? Unlike in 2012 there is now a mechanism in place to determine that so it would not be the same situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: What, put it to a members' vote which club is elected to be club 42? Unlike in 2012 there is now a mechanism in place to determine that so it would not be the same situation. More likely to be administration than liquidation so 15 points deduction or whatever it is and someone can buy themselves a SPFL Club for chickenfeed ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: More likely to be administration than liquidation so 15 points deduction or whatever it is and someone can buy themselves a SPFL Club for chickenfeed ! Are Edinburgh City an attractive club for someone to buy, though? I mean no offence by this as we are not that much different but they are a club with no stadium and a tiny fanbase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Are Edinburgh City an attractive club for someone to buy, though? I mean no offence by this as we are not that much different but they are a club with no stadium and a tiny fanbase. But if your one of the pyramid new clubs who fancy jumping a few leagues and do a livi/airdrie with them it maybe tempting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMonc Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, parsforlife said: But if your one of the pyramid new clubs who fancy jumping a few leagues and do a livi/airdrie with them it maybe tempting Hadn't actually given this much consideration but I wonder if this is in fact the most likely scenario. Before they got promoted Spartans tried to buy us/our place in the league so stands to reason another club will have the same idea. Jeez. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyTuesday Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Some mostly sensible comments and empathy from decent fans of other clubs here - thank you. If I were to trace the current situation back to a single decision it would be the previous board signing off the decision to move back to a Meadowbank that was still under construction. Any ground where fans are sited behind a running track at ground level just isn't going to work. I think the fans knew that, but the anger was instead consumed by the change of name to FC Edinburgh in summer '22. But, we are where we are. It might be possible to avoid going into administration (with a points deduction), but I don't know if the full extent of the club's financial peril are even fully obvious to the current board. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, parsforlife said: But if your one of the pyramid new clubs who fancy jumping a few leagues and do a livi/airdrie with them it maybe tempting Are there any rules to prevent a club being renamed and relocated immediately after being bought over? There obviously were not when Airdrie United bought Clydebank (albeit they could not rename them Airdrieonians) but I dunno if rules have been put in place since. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Are there any rules to prevent a club being renamed and relocated immediately after being bought over? There obviously were not when Airdrie United bought Clydebank (albeit they could not rename them Airdrieonians) but I dunno if rules have been put in place since. SFA & SPFL aren't obliged to let a club rename + relocate itself, 'merge' with another club, etc. Even in 2002 it required SFL permission for Airdrie United to 'bodysnatch' Clydebank: BBC SPORT | Scotland | Airdrie United given green light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: ...I mean no offence by this as we are not that much different but they are a club with no stadium and a tiny fanbase. All it takes is Seref Zengin deciding that trying to stay fulltime in League One wasn't such a good move after all and exiting stage right with control being hastily handed over to a fan group and half way through the following season... On the sweepstakes of who is most likely to try and buy Edinburgh City's league place I'll go for East Kilbride. Hopefully it won't come to that though and there's a way to exit administration with Edinburgh City fans running things again. Edited December 10, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: On the sweepstakes of who is most likely to try and buy Edinburgh City's league place I'll go for East Kilbride. Hopefully it won't come to that though and there's a way to exit administration with Edinburgh City fans running things again. Taking @HibeeJibee's post above (and the mechanisms now in place to gain promotion to the SPFL) into consideration I'd like to think the SPFL / its member clubs would veto any attempt by an existing club to effectively buy another club's playing licence in a higher league. Edited December 10, 2023 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Brazilianlex said: More likely to be administration than liquidation so 15 points deduction or whatever it is and someone can buy themselves a SPFL Club for chickenfeed ! How many SPFL clubs actually make a profit? If you can't see a return on your money, then 'chickenfeed' may be the fair market price. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Good Citizen Bad Citizen Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 All the hard work to get us to the SPFL in the 1st place has been undone. Granted, we had a non existent fan base when we got here which was always going to be a red flag to begin with. I'm going to try and write this my best in chronological order as to what has gone completely wrong and why we are in this position now. Firstly when Jah stepped down as chairman the club was handed over to highly ambitious businessmen that didn't have the funds to sustain their ambitions. Secondly, the move to Ainslie Park and not having our own home within a year and the signing of a convicted sex offender done absolutely no good to the pretty decent PR and goodwill the club built up under the EOSL/Lowland regime plus our 1st season in League 2. We were very lucky that Cowden were tragic in 2017/18 or we would've been toast, we also racked up a bit of debt. During the 2018/19 we had this ambition to become the best part time team in Scotland, decent players were signed on NOT high wages like many believe, a couple of gems from non league were unearthed and things looked a lot rosier until we found out the club were in the red and we needed a backer. Then along comes this backer who just wanted to run a football club from his home city, he ploughed a lot of his own money in. Covid then hit which wasn't ideal but we seemed to survive that and in 2022 we were promoted to League 1 despite the team being pretty mediocre all season. The club then decided to change the name of the club immediately without consulting any fans whatsoever and what little fanbase we had dwindled away and the club, with the money it was paying to try and chase a deluded dream to get to the championship, became completely unsustainable. The owner then told us we had 3 weeks to save the club and we found out the owner was trying to negotiate a deal with Spartans for them to take us over unless a fan led consortium took over which somehow miraculously happened. We were told things would be tight but it now seems the two who saved us at the last hour were lead down the wrong alley and the club was in a serious amount of debt with just about everyone and anything you can think of. Despite lowering ticket prices to attract more support we just haven't, the membership scheme has not even managed to touch the sides when it comes to plugging back any losses therefore we now find ourselves in this position where we could either go into administration, go to the wall completely or be opened up to a takeover from another club(again) As a long term fan who has overly invested emotionally over the years this is heartbreaking stuff. I've been to nearly every corner of this country following this basket case of a football club and the fact i and many others are completely powerless to help save the situation hurts us even more. There just isn't enough of us, and that stems from not having the fanbase for SPFL football in the first place. An absolutely grim situation, we aren't sustainable, and sadly I'm now resigned to the fact we are finished. I hope I can revisit this post in a years time and laugh at how wrong I was, but I doubt this thread will exist in a years time 46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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