Follow Follow Rangers. Season 2023/24

[Sortmeout]

3 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

This is such an elegant goal:

 

Goals and football like this are really good signs for your teams upcoming ten year anniversary. Should be a successful year.

[AJF]

8 minutes ago, Sortmeout said:

Goals and football like this are really good signs for your teams upcoming ten year anniversary. Should be a successful year.

Come on. That one was weak. Capable of much better.

[The_Kincardine]

11 minutes ago, Sortmeout said:

Goals and football like this are really good signs for your teams upcoming ten year anniversary. Should be a successful year.

 

2 minutes ago, AJF said:

Come on. That one was weak. Capable of much better.

Eh?  That was his best shot!

[G51]

 

They have no idea how high this goes.

[Grangemouth Bairn]

1 hour ago, G51 said:

 

They have no idea how high this goes.

What one had the skinny latte??

[G51]

26 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

What one had the skinny latte??

Ross Wilson, probably. Seems the type.

Hearing Ange had a pint of Bovril.

[Jinky67]

36 minutes ago, G51 said:

Ross Wilson, probably. Seems the type.

Hearing Ange had a pint of Bovril.

And he probably downed it one 

[Drew Brees]

15 hours ago, G51 said:

 

They have no idea how high this goes.

GVB told Ange, ‘And don’t you be speaking about my f***ing players’, only for Ange to tell him, ‘They’re not your f***ing players, they’re Stevens’

[Goomba]

15 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

 

Eh?  That was his best shot!

They can't bear that despite being flung down the leagues we still managed to stay the same club.

Hardy har har!

[Squonk]

10 hours ago, Goomba said:

They can't bear that despite being flung down the leagues we still managed to stay the same club.

Hardy har har!

Congratulations. Apart from the fact that Rangers weren't "flung down the leagues," nor did they manage "to stay the same club," you got the rest of that sentence spot on.

Charles Green applied to have his new club play in the SFL, having previously applied and failed to join the SPL, and eventually had his wish granted thanks to a vote by the other SFL clubs. 

A court of law has already determined that Rangers were not relegated/demoted (Albert Kinloch versus Coral bookmakers case) and the only other way they could've conceivably been "flung down the leagues" as you suggest, would've involved the league management committee convening a disciplinary meeting whose outcome punished them with a three-tier demotion, similar to the two-tier demotion dished out to Livingston two or three years earlier. No such disciplinary meeting ever took place, confirming Rangers were never relegated, demoted, illegally put down or flung down the leagues, no matter how many times you want to re-write history to suit your narrative.

Many Scottish football clubs have become insolvent in the past, from Third Lanark in the 1960s right up to Hearts and Dunfermline more recently. 

There are only two ways in which a Scottish football club can survive insolvency; either by having the club bought out of administration, a method that involves the purchaser paying off existing debts (prohibitive multi-million pound debts in Rangers case), or by the club in administration reaching a pennies-in-the-pound agreement with its creditors. The latter method, involving successfully obtaining a CVA, is how Hearts, Dunfermline, Motherwell, Dundee and a host of other clubs survived insolvency as the same club. None of them went into liquidation as Rangers did.

All of those clubs were businesses and companies, just like Rangers, but unlike Rangers, none of the other three clubs that went into liquidation (Third Lanark, Airdrieonians & Gretna) were of sufficient size to affect broadcasting and other important commercial contracts. Gretna 2008 play in front of the same fans at the same stadium and in the same colours as the defunct Gretna FC, but are categorically not the same club.

What followed Rangers’ failure to exit administration will one day be made into a film or play, whether under the genre of farce or comedy.  

As soon as the CVA failed, the administrators, Duff & Phelps, and the Scottish football authorities conspired and contrived to paint the death by liquidation of Rangers as if a new owner had simply taken over the club, knowing that even the most deluded 500 million supporters in the universe would never follow follow a brand new club with neither a title or trophy to its name.

The administrators’ initial description of “the purchase of the business and assets” morphed through necessity into “the purchase of the club” in order to get those fans onboard, while creative supposed journalists invented terms like 'engine room subsidiary' and 'holding company' when referencing a club they'd universally declared as simply dead.

All of this because the football authorities had drafted the secretive five way agreement, whereby all the signatories were sworn to silence by non-disclosure agreements, in which a legal contract was signed which agreed to treat the new club as if it was the old defunct one. There is a world of difference between being treated as the same club and actually being it! Why was it necessary to draft a secret agreement in Rangers' case, when no other club's insolvency had required such a contract? What was it that made it unsuitable for public consumption? Well, we all know the answer to that, don't we?

If the engine of my trusty motor suffers terminal mechanical failure, I might be fortunate enough to purchase an identical model of car in the exact same colour. I can even transfer the vehicle registration number over. It will not make it the same car as the one that died, however much I treat it as if it is.

It is purely down to financial expediency that the current club playing out of Ibrox is being treated as if it was the club that died such an ignominious and self-inflicted death, all of it facilitated by a corrupt cabal of deceitful football authorities mired in vested interest and backed by all the other clubs in an embarrassing display of self-interest and self-preservation.
 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Squonk

[alta-pete]

@Squonk tl;dr, but I admire the attention you’re devoting to your cause. Gimme a potted version? 

[bennett]

Aye no one asked for War and Peace Squanks.

 

[G51]

2 hours ago, Squonk said:

Congratulations. Apart from the fact that Rangers weren't "flung down the leagues," nor did they manage "to stay the same club," you got the rest of that sentence spot on.

Charles Green applied to have his new club play in the SFL, having previously applied and failed to join the SPL, and eventually had his wish granted thanks to a vote by the other SFL clubs. 

A court of law has already determined that Rangers were not relegated/demoted (Albert Kinloch versus Coral bookmakers case) and the only other way they could've conceivably been "flung down the leagues" as you suggest, would've involved the league management committee convening a disciplinary meeting whose outcome punished them with a three-tier demotion, similar to the two-tier demotion dished out to Livingston two or three years earlier. No such disciplinary meeting ever took place, confirming Rangers were never relegated, demoted, illegally put down or flung down the leagues, no matter how many times you want to re-write history to suit your narrative.

Many Scottish football clubs have become insolvent in the past, from Third Lanark in the 1960s right up to Hearts and Dunfermline more recently. 

There are only two ways in which a Scottish football club can survive insolvency; either by having the club bought out of administration, a method that involves the purchaser paying off existing debts (prohibitive multi-million pound debts in Rangers case), or by the club in administration reaching a pennies-in-the-pound agreement with its creditors. The latter method, involving successfully obtaining a CVA, is how Hearts, Dunfermline, Motherwell, Dundee and a host of other clubs survived insolvency as the same club. None of them went into liquidation as Rangers did.

All of those clubs were businesses and companies, just like Rangers, but unlike Rangers, none of them were of sufficient size to affect broadcasting and other important commercial contracts. Gretna 2008 play in front of the same fans at the same stadium and in the same colours as the defunct Gretna FC, but are categorically not the same club.

What followed Rangers’ failure to exit administration will one day be made into a film or play, whether under the genre of farce or comedy.  

As soon as the CVA failed, the administrators, Duff & Phelps, and the Scottish football authorities conspired and contrived to paint the death by liquidation of Rangers as if a new owner had simply taken over the club, knowing that even the most deluded 500 million supporters in the universe would never follow follow a brand new club with neither a title or trophy to its name.

The administrators’ initial description of “the purchase of the business and assets” morphed through necessity into “the purchase of the club” in order to get those fans onboard, while creative supposed journalists invented terms like 'engine room subsidiary' and 'holding company' when referencing a club they'd universally declared as simply dead.

All of this because the football authorities had drafted the secretive five way agreement, whereby all the signatories were sworn to silence by non-disclosure agreements, in which a legal contract was signed which agreed to treat the new club as if it was the old defunct one. There is a world of difference between being treated as the same club and actually being it! Why was it necessary to draft a secret agreement in Rangers' case, when no other club's insolvency had required such a contract? What was it that made it unsuitable for public consumption? Well, we all know the answer to that, don't we?

If the engine of my trusty motor suffers terminal mechanical failure, I might be fortunate enough to purchase an identical model of car in the exact same colour. I can even transfer the vehicle registration number over. It will not make it the same car as the one that died, however much I treat it as if it is.

It is purely down to financial expediency that the current club playing out of Ibrox is being treated as if it was the club that died such an ignominious and self-inflicted death, all of it facilitated by a corrupt cabal of deceitful football authorities mired in vested interest and backed by all the other clubs in an embarrassing display of self-interest and self-preservation.
 

[KnightswoodBear]

12 hours ago, Squonk said:

Congratulations. Apart from the fact that Rangers weren't "flung down the leagues," nor did they manage "to stay the same club," you got the rest of that sentence spot on.

Charles Green applied to have his new club play in the SFL, having previously applied and failed to join the SPL, and eventually had his wish granted thanks to a vote by the other SFL clubs. 

A court of law has already determined that Rangers were not relegated/demoted (Albert Kinloch versus Coral bookmakers case) and the only other way they could've conceivably been "flung down the leagues" as you suggest, would've involved the league management committee convening a disciplinary meeting whose outcome punished them with a three-tier demotion, similar to the two-tier demotion dished out to Livingston two or three years earlier. No such disciplinary meeting ever took place, confirming Rangers were never relegated, demoted, illegally put down or flung down the leagues, no matter how many times you want to re-write history to suit your narrative.

Many Scottish football clubs have become insolvent in the past, from Third Lanark in the 1960s right up to Hearts and Dunfermline more recently. 

There are only two ways in which a Scottish football club can survive insolvency; either by having the club bought out of administration, a method that involves the purchaser paying off existing debts (prohibitive multi-million pound debts in Rangers case), or by the club in administration reaching a pennies-in-the-pound agreement with its creditors. The latter method, involving successfully obtaining a CVA, is how Hearts, Dunfermline, Motherwell, Dundee and a host of other clubs survived insolvency as the same club. None of them went into liquidation as Rangers did.

All of those clubs were businesses and companies, just like Rangers, but unlike Rangers, none of the other three clubs that went into liquidation (Third Lanark, Airdrieonians & Gretna) were of sufficient size to affect broadcasting and other important commercial contracts. Gretna 2008 play in front of the same fans at the same stadium and in the same colours as the defunct Gretna FC, but are categorically not the same club.

What followed Rangers’ failure to exit administration will one day be made into a film or play, whether under the genre of farce or comedy.  

As soon as the CVA failed, the administrators, Duff & Phelps, and the Scottish football authorities conspired and contrived to paint the death by liquidation of Rangers as if a new owner had simply taken over the club, knowing that even the most deluded 500 million supporters in the universe would never follow follow a brand new club with neither a title or trophy to its name.

The administrators’ initial description of “the purchase of the business and assets” morphed through necessity into “the purchase of the club” in order to get those fans onboard, while creative supposed journalists invented terms like 'engine room subsidiary' and 'holding company' when referencing a club they'd universally declared as simply dead.

All of this because the football authorities had drafted the secretive five way agreement, whereby all the signatories were sworn to silence by non-disclosure agreements, in which a legal contract was signed which agreed to treat the new club as if it was the old defunct one. There is a world of difference between being treated as the same club and actually being it! Why was it necessary to draft a secret agreement in Rangers' case, when no other club's insolvency had required such a contract? What was it that made it unsuitable for public consumption? Well, we all know the answer to that, don't we?

If the engine of my trusty motor suffers terminal mechanical failure, I might be fortunate enough to purchase an identical model of car in the exact same colour. I can even transfer the vehicle registration number over. It will not make it the same car as the one that died, however much I treat it as if it is.

It is purely down to financial expediency that the current club playing out of Ibrox is being treated as if it was the club that died such an ignominious and self-inflicted death, all of it facilitated by a corrupt cabal of deceitful football authorities mired in vested interest and backed by all the other clubs in an embarrassing display of self-interest and self-preservation.
 

 

[kingjoey]

On 16/12/2021 at 17:10, The_Kincardine said:

This is such an elegant goal:

 

Although I’d like to, it’s impossible to disagree.

[Sergeant Wilson]

12 hours ago, alta-pete said:

@Squonk tl;dr, but I admire the attention you’re devoting to your cause. Gimme a potted version? 

Your club's deid.

[KnightswoodBear]

The usual family madness is beginning, so, lest I forget, I'm going to wish the premium posters of P&B a very staunch and merry Christmas. 

[Drew Brees]

4 minutes ago, KnightswoodVanBear said:

The usual family madness is beginning, so, lest I forget, I'm going to wish the premium posters of P&B a very staunch and merry Christmas. 

[Dons_1988]

Is this the right thread to laugh at Allan mcgregor being absolutely not bothered at all by the events of 2012 

[bennett]

5 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Is this the right thread to laugh at Allan mcgregor being absolutely not bothered at all by the events of 2012 

I thought he was referring to the 2008 tour of Japan.