Heads Gone (The 8MileBU Awards)

[Granny Danger]

17 minutes ago, Sport socks and scampi said:

You have a poor reputation rate which suggests your postings have not been an enjoyable experience for the masses?    Do you think you can improve your goal difference?  

Don’t refer to posters’ reputation rate.  It’s not nice.

[Moomintroll]

3 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Got a temporary ban during that time he found his level and had a meltdown over Rab B Nesbit

Tbf, I think we all had a meltdown because of Rab at one point or another.

[Moomintroll]

What fresh alias hell is Sports socks and scampi then?

[Marshmallo]

Just now, Perkin Flump said:

What fresh alias hell is Sports socks and scampi then?

Pretty sure it's a @newcastle broon alias mate.

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1 minute ago, Sport socks and scampi said:

You spelt the username wrong you perkin flump.    

Oops, I do apologise.

[bennett]

9 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Pretty sure it's a @newcastle broon alias mate.

Samuel  Smith's Nut brown ale?

 

[newcastle broon]

1 hour ago, Marshmallo said:

Pretty sure it's a @newcastle broon alias mate.

??

[ICTChris]

5 hours ago, Speroni*1 said:

In a slightly more serious note, is there not some conspiracy going on that the Tory party made up lots of fake AI-controlled Twitter accounts to support the government during this crisis?

 

4 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

More a fact than a conspiracy I think.

It's highly likely to be untrue.  The story came about and was referred to on either the Covid or Twitter threads after an activist posted a thread on Twitter claiming that they had evidence that a number of Twitter accounts claiming to be NHS staff had been set up by people close to the Ministry of Health, or employed by them.  These accounts were supposedly set up to tweet support for the government during the Covid crisis.  As way of evidence the activist linked to an account he said was part of this network and said that he had evidence of dozens, possibly over 100 accounts set up for this purpose using the tool Hootsuite.  The account claimed to be from a nurse linked to a specific hospital trust and used a photograph of a real NHS nurse as it's profile picture.  Peter Jukes and Carole Cadawallar retweeted or publicised the thread, giving it tens of thousands of shares and likely millions of views.

However, when people started ot look into the story the picture became less clear.  The only account identified was the one claiming to be a nurse working for a specific NHS Trust.  That account was reported by the Trust as fake and suspended by Twitter.  The image used of the nurse was taken from the public website of a trade union (Unison I think but I'd have to check).  The content of the account was a little odd, it seemed to be a parody account of "woke culture".  If you are on Twitter you've probably seen some of these accounts, Titania McGrath is the best known account like this.  The account claimed to be a transitioning nurse fighting covid on behalf of the non-binary and trans community.  It posted about banning clapping because it could cause people to be triggered and it discriminated against the deaf.  The account seemed more like a crappy troll account than anything set up to back the government.  The Department of Health denied it, Twitter said there was no evidence of a network, Hootsuite denied it and said there is no way for anyone to see who has set up what account on their platform.

The only evidence that was put forward at the time, and the only evidence that has been made public at all, is the single account that was banned.  No other accounts have been identified by anyone as being part of a fake network of government supporting NHS employees.  The fact checking organisation Full Fact wrote an article about this (https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/ ).  No-one has identified any of these accounts and there is no evidence of any further fake accounts, a network, a conspriacy, any sort of campaign.  In addition, Full Fact revelaed that previously the activist in question had issued false information about a leak of documents from UK - US trade negotiations, where he claimed that damning information was included in an appendix to the leaked documents that didn't exist.

When given the opportunity to reply, the activist who publicised the initial thread claimed that he had evidence of the accounts but that he didn't have them in a presentable form and that his team of 31 specialists were working on fully fact checking the documentation.  All the specialists are anonymous.  It's worth noting that many national newspapers probably have fewer staff than that working at the moment.  The Boston Globe Spotlight team who won the Pulitizer Prize and inspired the film had five journalists.  IN addition to this, if you have a list of Twitter accounts you think are bots then there isnothing to stop you publicising these claims.  The idea that the data needs to be significantly parsed or analysed or cleaned up doesn't really stand up.  You could easily publish this information in a way that protected you legally.  The original tweeter who posted about this is still tweeting furiously about all sorts and claims that his team of anonymous experts is still working on this.  Maybe he will publish a full expose and reveal that it's true and that his decision to publicise this without any evidence was a clever ploy to get attention.  

I am very interested in conspiracy theories and how they spread and I think that this story is a good example of how they do.  I saw loads of people refer to or retweet this story, it got huge traction.  But there is no evidence and if you look at it logically it's highly unlikely to be true.  A lot of the people who retweeted it will likely believe it no matter what and there will be no consequences for the guy who posted it.  What a strange world we live in now.  

[ICTChris]

^^^^ Heads gone

[Bairnardo]

2 hours ago, Perkin Flump said:

What fresh alias hell is Sports socks and scampi then?

It's most victimised poster on the entire site, but I shall not name him lest he be banned again. This place is important to him and he is important to me.

[eindhovendee]

It's highly likely to be untrue.  The story came about and was referred to on either the Covid or Twitter threads after an activist posted a thread on Twitter claiming that they had evidence that a number of Twitter accounts claiming to be NHS staff had been set up by people close to the Ministry of Health, or employed by them.  These accounts were supposedly set up to tweet support for the government during the Covid crisis.  As way of evidence the activist linked to an account he said was part of this network and said that he had evidence of dozens, possibly over 100 accounts set up for this purpose using the tool Hootsuite.  The account claimed to be from a nurse linked to a specific hospital trust and used a photograph of a real NHS nurse as it's profile picture.  Peter Jukes and Carole Cadawallar retweeted or publicised the thread, giving it tens of thousands of shares and likely millions of views.
However, when people started ot look into the story the picture became less clear.  The only account identified was the one claiming to be a nurse working for a specific NHS Trust.  That account was reported by the Trust as fake and suspended by Twitter.  The image used of the nurse was taken from the public website of a trade union (Unison I think but I'd have to check).  The content of the account was a little odd, it seemed to be a parody account of "woke culture".  If you are on Twitter you've probably seen some of these accounts, Titania McGrath is the best known account like this.  The account claimed to be a transitioning nurse fighting covid on behalf of the non-binary and trans community.  It posted about banning clapping because it could cause people to be triggered and it discriminated against the deaf.  The account seemed more like a crappy troll account than anything set up to back the government.  The Department of Health denied it, Twitter said there was no evidence of a network, Hootsuite denied it and said there is no way for anyone to see who has set up what account on their platform.
The only evidence that was put forward at the time, and the only evidence that has been made public at all, is the single account that was banned.  No other accounts have been identified by anyone as being part of a fake network of government supporting NHS employees.  The fact checking organisation Full Fact wrote an article about this (https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/ ).  No-one has identified any of these accounts and there is no evidence of any further fake accounts, a network, a conspriacy, any sort of campaign.  In addition, Full Fact revelaed that previously the activist in question had issued false information about a leak of documents from UK - US trade negotiations, where he claimed that damning information was included in an appendix to the leaked documents that didn't exist.
When given the opportunity to reply, the activist who publicised the initial thread claimed that he had evidence of the accounts but that he didn't have them in a presentable form and that his team of 31 specialists were working on fully fact checking the documentation.  All the specialists are anonymous.  It's worth noting that many national newspapers probably have fewer staff than that working at the moment.  The Boston Globe Spotlight team who won the Pulitizer Prize and inspired the film had five journalists.  IN addition to this, if you have a list of Twitter accounts you think are bots then there isnothing to stop you publicising these claims.  The idea that the data needs to be significantly parsed or analysed or cleaned up doesn't really stand up.  You could easily publish this information in a way that protected you legally.  The original tweeter who posted about this is still tweeting furiously about all sorts and claims that his team of anonymous experts is still working on this.  Maybe he will publish a full expose and reveal that it's true and that his decision to publicise this without any evidence was a clever ploy to get attention.  
I am very interested in conspiracy theories and how they spread and I think that this story is a good example of how they do.  I saw loads of people refer to or retweet this story, it got huge traction.  But there is no evidence and if you look at it logically it's highly unlikely to be true.  A lot of the people who retweeted it will likely believe it no matter what and there will be no consequences for the guy who posted it.  What a strange world we live in now.  

Thanks. Got a day off tomorrow so I'll probably read that post then.

#lockdownachievements

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8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

It's most victimised poster on the entire site, but I shall not name him lest he be banned again. This place is important to him and he is important to me.

Well that was helpful undersized one, just send me a bloody pm & tell me.

[Bairnardo]

1 minute ago, Perkin Flump said:

Well that was helpful undersized one, just send me a bloody pm & tell me.

You will have to bear with me, I am currently having a wee drive in my Kia through #Perthshire where I intend to mow down some cyclists, then install an E on the end of my conventionally spelt name.

[bennett]

33 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

 

It's highly likely to be untrue.  The story came about and was referred to on either the Covid or Twitter threads after an activist posted a thread on Twitter claiming that they had evidence that a number of Twitter accounts claiming to be NHS staff had been set up by people close to the Ministry of Health, or employed by them.  These accounts were supposedly set up to tweet support for the government during the Covid crisis.  As way of evidence the activist linked to an account he said was part of this network and said that he had evidence of dozens, possibly over 100 accounts set up for this purpose using the tool Hootsuite.  The account claimed to be from a nurse linked to a specific hospital trust and used a photograph of a real NHS nurse as it's profile picture.  Peter Jukes and Carole Cadawallar retweeted or publicised the thread, giving it tens of thousands of shares and likely millions of views.

However, when people started ot look into the story the picture became less clear.  The only account identified was the one claiming to be a nurse working for a specific NHS Trust.  That account was reported by the Trust as fake and suspended by Twitter.  The image used of the nurse was taken from the public website of a trade union (Unison I think but I'd have to check).  The content of the account was a little odd, it seemed to be a parody account of "woke culture".  If you are on Twitter you've probably seen some of these accounts, Titania McGrath is the best known account like this.  The account claimed to be a transitioning nurse fighting covid on behalf of the non-binary and trans community.  It posted about banning clapping because it could cause people to be triggered and it discriminated against the deaf.  The account seemed more like a crappy troll account than anything set up to back the government.  The Department of Health denied it, Twitter said there was no evidence of a network, Hootsuite denied it and said there is no way for anyone to see who has set up what account on their platform.

The only evidence that was put forward at the time, and the only evidence that has been made public at all, is the single account that was banned.  No other accounts have been identified by anyone as being part of a fake network of government supporting NHS employees.  The fact checking organisation Full Fact wrote an article about this (https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/ ).  No-one has identified any of these accounts and there is no evidence of any further fake accounts, a network, a conspriacy, any sort of campaign.  In addition, Full Fact revelaed that previously the activist in question had issued false information about a leak of documents from UK - US trade negotiations, where he claimed that damning information was included in an appendix to the leaked documents that didn't exist.

When given the opportunity to reply, the activist who publicised the initial thread claimed that he had evidence of the accounts but that he didn't have them in a presentable form and that his team of 31 specialists were working on fully fact checking the documentation.  All the specialists are anonymous.  It's worth noting that many national newspapers probably have fewer staff than that working at the moment.  The Boston Globe Spotlight team who won the Pulitizer Prize and inspired the film had five journalists.  IN addition to this, if you have a list of Twitter accounts you think are bots then there isnothing to stop you publicising these claims.  The idea that the data needs to be significantly parsed or analysed or cleaned up doesn't really stand up.  You could easily publish this information in a way that protected you legally.  The original tweeter who posted about this is still tweeting furiously about all sorts and claims that his team of anonymous experts is still working on this.  Maybe he will publish a full expose and reveal that it's true and that his decision to publicise this without any evidence was a clever ploy to get attention.  

I am very interested in conspiracy theories and how they spread and I think that this story is a good example of how they do.  I saw loads of people refer to or retweet this story, it got huge traction.  But there is no evidence and if you look at it logically it's highly unlikely to be true.  A lot of the people who retweeted it will likely believe it no matter what and there will be no consequences for the guy who posted it.  What a strange world we live in now.  

 

No one asked for war and peace Chris. 

 

[Moomintroll]

1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

You will have to bear with me, I am currently having a wee drive in my Kia through #Perthshire where I intend to mow down some cyclists, then install an E on the end of my conventionally spelt name.

Ah, now I get it, and I concur that Grahame is a fucking ridiculous name.

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4 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said:

Ah, now I get it, and I concur that Grahame is a fucking ridiculous name.

That said, I like PB,he just needs to change that name by Deed Poll.

[DA Baracus]

A question for the folk who seek all the posts of another poster and red dot them, regardless of their content; why?

[Derry Alli]

2 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

A question for the folk who seek all the posts of another poster and red dot them, regardless of their content; why?

[Bairnardo]

7 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

A question for the folk who seek all the posts of another poster and red dot them, regardless of their content; why?

It's a modern form of bullying. "It's just the internet" and "sticks and stones" type stuff have thankfully long been dismissed as an excuse for trying to harm the wellbeing of others. Generally used by individuals to mask inadequacy of character IMO.

[Ludo*1]

29 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said:

That said, I like PB,he just needs to change that name by Deed Poll.

Who are you? Sweet Pete?