Glenconner Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Cumbernauld Colts sound a bit dodgy as well. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Cumbernauld Colts sound a bit dodgy as well. At least their a "proper" 1st team to call reserve teams Colts is just naff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If it's going through the usual SPFL votes then everyone needs to email or phone their clubs to voice their displeasure. Online petitions and the like will serve no purpose. Clubs care about their bottom line, threatening boycotts will get their attention. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Utterly appalling proposals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyde_r_us Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I already stated if this goes ahead I would happily drift about the north and Midlands of England watching football never again setting foot in a senior ground again.... After 50 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, clyde_r_us said: I already stated if this goes ahead I would happily drift about the north and Midlands of England watching football never again setting foot in a senior ground again.... After 50 years Will there be Colts in the Lowland League? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Desperate state of affairs. I don't care of Robbo is in favour of an ICT colt team, I am vehemently against it. Did the SPFL ever let us know what the response was to the consultation with the clubs on the issue which took place last summer?https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-consults-with-clubs-on-colt-teams/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'll be livid if my season ticket price is increased to take account of the 4 extra matches. I'm unlikely to attend them.Why state that they will purchase 250 tickets at £10 each. What league two club has adult tickets at that price?If it's a two year pilot, I hope all fans will boycott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, RiG said: Desperate state of affairs. I don't care of Robbo is in favour of an ICT colt team, I am vehemently against it. Did the SPFL ever let us know what the response was to the consultation with the clubs on the issue which took place last summer?https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-consults-with-clubs-on-colt-teams/ What on Earth makes you think that fans have any right to be consulted on SPFL decisions? Outrageous entitlement. Sit doon and eat yer gruel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Desperate state of affairs. I don't care of Robbo is in favour of an ICT colt team, I am vehemently against it. Did the SPFL ever let us know what the response was to the consultation with the clubs on the issue which took place last summer?https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-consults-with-clubs-on-colt-teams/ No - as it was a consultation so no requirement to publish the feedback received 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'll be livid if my season ticket price is increased to take account of the 4 extra matches. I'm unlikely to attend them.Why state that they will purchase 250 tickets at £10 each. What league two club has adult tickets at that price?If it's a two year pilot, I hope all fans will boycott Presumably the £10 is an average price taking into account the fact that some purchasers will be entitled to concession prices at lower than standard adult price 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Get this idea in the fucking sea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'm not for this at all. If colts are to be added them it needs to be beneath the current structure. A west of Scotland league at Tier 6 would be ideal for this scenario. To jump ahead of LL/HL clubs is just wrong 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, edinabear said: I'm not for this at all. If colts are to be added them it needs to be beneath the current structure. A west of Scotland league at Tier 6 would be ideal for this scenario. To jump ahead of LL/HL clubs is just wrong You are for it then, just in a slightly different format, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: You are for it then, just in a slightly different format, I don't think it's the end of the world as some on here but if it is to happen it needs to be done correctly eg: Colts sides start at the bottom of the Pyramid It's not just limited to Old firm sides The colt teams have 'defined' squads They can only progress to a certain level, probably League 2 at the very maximum. Parachuting them in at league 2 is a bad idea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, edinabear said: I don't think it's the end of the world as some on here but if it is to happen it needs to be done correctly eg: Colts sides start at the bottom of the Pyramid It's not just limited to Old firm sides The colt teams have 'defined' squads They can only progress to a certain level, probably League 2 at the very maximum. Parachuting them in at league 2 is a bad idea Of course it's not the end of the world, it's only football. I've long since bumped the seniors for the utter contempt, corruption and incompetence shown by the authorities and clubs so it'll have little impact on me. But it is another step in the wrong direction that will alienate long standing supporters. Bumping them down a level and lumbering someone else with them seems a bit selfish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz5 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Whatever people think of the Lowland & Highland league, you'd be as well knocking them off the bottom of the pyramid if this goes ahead. What's the point in all the teams in those leagues putting in the effort to get licensed / join the pyramid if they get usurped by SPFL youth teams? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, gaz5 said: Whatever people think of the Lowland & Highland league, you'd be as well knocking them off the bottom of the pyramid if this goes ahead. What's the point in all the teams in those leagues putting in the effort to get licensed / join the pyramid if they get usurped by SPFL youth teams? Has sporting integrity disappeared again. No club should have more than one team in the system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) I'm not following the financial "benefit" theory here, i.e. that clubs motivation to ignore everything else would be the "bribe". (Clearly their £15,000 figure is 6 games x 250 tickets x £10, btw, and is the maximum - the other possible format envisaged produces £7,500). Currently everyone play 36 games = 18 home games, all against proper clubs. Across the division as a whole in recent years the average attendance is about 500. This proposal envisages playing 33 games. That means: * 16-17 home games under normal arrangements (assuming Celtic 'B' and Rangers 'B' played were set opposite each other in the rota) * 19-20 home games if 'B' teams only played away from home Even if we assume £10 is a fair average of adults/concession, the "bribe" of 250 tickets only breaks-even if 250 people still attend. That's just to break-even, not deliver some meaningful increase. Therefore under normal arrangements clubs would lose 1-2 home games outright, and lose money on 3-4 more games if <250 are prepared to watch "B" teams. They would get 1-2 more home games if "B" teams only played away from home... but fully one-third of all their home games, no fewer than 6 out of 19-20, would be against "B" teams which are of course exposed to this "who will watch them" issue. This also doesn't consider possible overall crowd decline through disillusionment/lower ST sales/etc... STs become 13-14 "proper" games, down from 18, plus 3/6 versus "B" teams. Experience from the Challenge Cup indicates 250 may be very optimistic, anyway. If it was dressed-up as a "2-year trial" there'd be even more incentive to boycott, too. Obviously that's the financial aspect, based on the article. There are many other issues, matters of principle or practicality... many covered before, but others new e.g.: * surely any "transfer window only" rule could be totally undermined by triallists/development loans/emergency transfers/etc. * playing everyone x3 is competitively imbalanced - it was got rid of in 1995 partly for that reason * how could you justify not having "B" teams finishing positions count for promotion/relegation, yet their points + scores are counting in the records of other clubs? * how on earth could "B" teams be exempt from relegation? They potentially do worse and finish bottom, but someone finishing 1-2 places higher goes down?! Edited January 21, 2018 by HibeeJibee 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Has Milne stated that Scottish League 2 needs a strong Rangers Colt team yet? He will... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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