orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said: How can they be skint with that size of membership? Too much reliance on the Weirs millions To be a member is as little as £2 a year - https://www.snp.org/join/member/ - that doesn't raise a whole heap after costs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, orfc said: You've confused "presently" with "8 years The SNP is the largest political party in Scotland in terms of both seats in the Westminster and Holyrood parliaments, and membership. As of 31 December 2021, the party had 103,884 members.[1] It currently has 45 Members of Parliament (MPs), 64 Members of the Scottish Parliament (MSPs) and over 450 local councillors.[31] The SNP is a member of the European Free Alliance (EFA). The party does not have any members of the House of Lords, on the principle that it opposes the upper house of Parliament and calls for it to be scrapped.[32] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: You said that membership flatlined under Sturgeon, whilst I showed that it quadrupled. I'm not sure what relevance your inane analogy has to this fact. Here's a summary for you good sir: Membership is the same as it was 8 years ago. They got a one-off boost of "loser's regret" members in the six months after the referendum (my guardian link is march 2015), nothing to do with nicola as leader. They are now at the same level today - it has flatlined (or they're even massaging the numbers according to that last link) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said: The SNP lie about their membership numbers https://wingsoverscotland.com/running-away-from-the-numbers/ No they don't, why should they. And really is that the best you can come up with, they're lying. No doubt yo can't stand the SNP, no miss, so you'll be telling us they are lying when they say they have 45 MP's and 64 Msp's. The SNP IS the LARGEST political party in Scotland. Whether you like or not means jack shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said: The SNP lie about their membership numbers https://wingsoverscotland.com/running-away-from-the-numbers/ Wings being such an unbiased and reliable source . . . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, SandyCromarty said: No they don't, why should they. And really is that the best you can come up with, they're lying. No doubt yo can't stand the SNP, no miss, so you'll be telling us they are lying when they say they have 45 MP's and 64 Msp's. The SNP IS the LARGEST political party in Scotland. Whether you like or not means jack shit. Wingsy's sums seem to work out: £174K at £2 a member is <90,000 members He is a very angry man, and I can't forgive his dreadful review of Turrican for the C64, but he knows how to do his research and he has absolutely picked apart Sturgeon and her acolytes the last couple of months 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Yeeesss the alba da's are here 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, orfc said: Too much reliance on the Weirs millions To be a member is as little as £2 a year - https://www.snp.org/join/member/ - that doesn't raise a whole heap after costs 2 quid is cheap, thought it would be more like 10-15 quid. How much is it to join other parties? Edited February 21, 2023 by ScotiaNostra 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, orfc said: Here's a summary for you good sir: Membership is the same as it was 8 years ago. They got a one-off boost of "loser's regret" members in the six months after the referendum (my guardian link is march 2015), nothing to do with nicola as leader. They are now at the same level today - it has flatlined (or they're even massaging the numbers according to that last link) Truthfully, the membership stood at over 10,000 in 2014. The fact that you are obsessed with SNP membership numbers highlights how afraid people of other political persuasions like yourself are unhappy with the SNP's success with 45 MP's and 64 MSP's, unless you thinks those numbers of parliamentary members have been massaged??? It was significant that when Nicola announced her resignation as MSP that other Scottish party leaders were almost orgasmic in their delight thinking that they would now succeed. How wrong they are as the SNP membership is bigger that all the other four parties put together and we will continue to return the SNP to power until we gain Independence. Anti SNP propaganda driven by the tory media and fools only makes us stronger in our resolve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Yeeesss the alba da's are here Why is there always an assumption of alba'ism? What's more likely, we're the 1% who vote alba or the 50+% who vote con/lib/lab? Anyways, I'm going to admit I was wrong It was the Amiga version he did a hatchet job on http://amr.abime.net/amr_popup_picture.php?src=amiga_power/magscans/ap08_1991_12/102.jpg&c=54377&n=1&filesize=308247 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, SandyCromarty said: Truthfully, the membership stood at over 10,000 in 2014. The fact that you are obsessed with SNP membership numbers highlights how afraid people of other political persuasions like yourself are unhappy with the SNP's success with 45 MP's and 64 MSP's, unless you thinks those numbers of parliamentary members have been massaged??? *blah blah blah* It was you that brought it up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said: 2 quid is cheap, thought it would be more like 10-15 quid. How much is it to join other parties? That's the bare minimum if you're a yoof, it's £5 seniors, £12 minimum everyone else, but they wouldn't turn you down paying more For instance, Lib Dems say £15 a year for normal membership but also say " How much you pay is up to you, the average is £40" - https://libdems.secure.force.com/LiberalDemocrats/NewMemberRegistration - I eventually signed up to the newsletter for £0 f**k knows what the tories is, probably a share of the deeds to your estate or something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I must have stumbled into the Falkirk thread by mistake going by this raging crowd w**k 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said: Feel free to counter the Rev's points, if you can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carpetmonster Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, orfc said: Wingsy's sums seem to work out: £174K at £2 a member is <90,000 members He is a very angry man, and I can't forgive his dreadful review of Turrican for the C64, but he knows how to do his research and he has absolutely picked apart Sturgeon and her acolytes the last couple of months Has he aye? To who? An audience of about 2000 rancid bigots and the begging to be grifted? Cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, orfc said: Here's a summary for you good sir: Membership is the same as it was 8 years ago. They got a one-off boost of "loser's regret" members in the six months after the referendum (my guardian link is march 2015), nothing to do with nicola as leader. They are now at the same level today - it has flatlined (or they're even massaging the numbers according to that last link) 1) Sturgeon was leader for more than 8 years. 2) Six months after the referendum, Sturgeon had been the acting leader for exactly one day less than six months, and had taken formal office four months before (14/11/2014). Unless you are suggesting that the 75,000 new members joined during the period whilst she was awaiting confirmation of her election, I'm not sure what technical point you are attempting to make. These members joined during her leadership. 3) You seem to have missed out the membership figures for 2019, when the party reported having 125,691 members. Picking two dates with similar membership figures and drawing a straight line betwee them does ot define flatlining. Incidentally, the reason for the drop between 2019 & the current position was explained in the snp's official accounts for 2020 “The overall number of members at year end was 105,393. All of those cancelling or lowering their membership payments listed the pandemic as the reason.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said: C64! At least you don’t bear a grudge Agreed about Wings and his research. I don’t like him, but he backs up his assertions with facts. No, he doesn’t. He backs them with supposition. Just looking at the accounts there, there are 2 levies listed (as there are in the answer to Norman MacLeod). Only one is highlighted by the good Rev though… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: No, he doesn’t. He backs them with supposition. Just looking at the accounts there, there are 2 levies listed (as there are in the answer to Norman MacLeod). Only one is highlighted by the good Rev though… There were two branch levies in 2019, thus they're rolled up under the same heading for the 2019 accounts. The money raised was 175k, roughly 90k each Edited February 21, 2023 by orfc Lib Dems extremism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ScotiaNostra said: 2 quid is cheap, thought it would be more like 10-15 quid. How much is it to join other parties? The basic membership for the Tories is £40, but if you pay more, you can make it back tenfold with the right deal... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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