Granny Danger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, topcat(The most tip top) said: No you don't Fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Fair enough. [emoji20] Right you are sir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Farage is a w****r. A single statement made to serve his agenda doesn't change that fact. Correct. The statement would have been re-written to say how dare the EU comment on an internal matter of a member state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Farage is a w****r. A single statement made to serve his agenda doesn't change that fact. True. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Have to disagree with this tbh. You could have said that about any previous country/region who have declared independence. I wouldn't underestimate a movements resolve and it's ability to resolve They would be in a stronger position for international recognition in the aftermath if the turnout had been well over 50% and ideally if they could have achieved over 50% of the electorate voting Yes. As things stand talk of UDI in a few days looks like posturing. If they were serious, it would probably already have happened by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 They would be in a stronger position for international recognition in the aftermath if the turnout had been well over 50% and ideally if they could have achieved over 50% of the electorate voting Yes. As things stand talk of UDI in a few days looks like posturing. If they were serious, it would probably already have happened by now. They can't get a bigger turnout when polling stations are being closed and people are being beaten in the streets.They are waiting for the final votes to be counted first. Once that's done the declaration will happen as he's said.They got 90 percent on a 43 per cent turnout. That's not including 700 000 votes stolen. It's reasonable to assume that was 90/10 as well. UDI is fair game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, GTG_03 said: They can't get a bigger turnout when polling stations are being closed and people are being beaten in the streets. They are waiting for the final votes to be counted first. Once that's done the declaration will happen as he's said. They got 90 percent on a 43 per cent turnout. That's not including 700 000 votes stolen. It's reasonable to assume that was 90/10 as well. UDI is fair game. Most No voters wouldn't take part in an illegal poll organised by Yes voters. It means nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Most No voters wouldn't take part in an illegal poll organised by Yes voters. It means nothing. Tbh. I think we are past that now ie ability to get definitive result is nigh impossible. Really all about UDI declaration now. Will they, won't they; and in meantime will the Madrid government offer concessions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Most No voters wouldn't take part in an illegal poll organised by Yes voters. It means nothing. If the same shit happened in Scotland I reckon a fair chunk of no voters would be scrapping with the police as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If the same shit happened in Scotland I reckon a fair chunk of no voters would be scrapping with the police as well. ^rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 ^rangers [emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 BBC reporting that the Catalan leader Puigdemont will make a statement at 8pm BST tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 UDI will be declared on Monday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 UDI will be declared on Monday Ok. Mrs Puigdemont 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Ok. Mrs Puigdemont 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Can anyone recommend a decent book on Spanish political history? Reading a lot of stuff in a lot of places that I would like to put context to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 hours ago, AUFC90 said: If the same shit happened in Scotland I reckon a fair chunk of no voters would be scrapping with the police as well. Policing is a devolved power Westminster would have to deploy troops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, topcat(The most tip top) said: Policing is a devolved power Westminster would have to deploy troops Where is Winston Churchill when you need him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Ross. said: Can anyone recommend a decent book on Spanish political history? Reading a lot of stuff in a lot of places that I would like to put context to. Not quite what you asked for but I can recommend Misha Glennie's 3 part Radio documentary series "The invention of spain" as a good primerhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nk276 And also Ernest Hemmingway's classic war novel "For whom the Bell Tolls" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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