kennie makevin Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) On 06/04/2024 at 03:22, PossilYM said: Sadly the term "old firm" died in 2012 when the old Rangers failed to pay the old Queen's tax. The term 'Old Firm' will die when we no longer have two secterian football clubs in Glasgow whose business model is predicated on carving up Scottish football for their own financial benefit. Sadly that's not happening anytime soon. Edited April 8 by kennie makevin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 06/04/2024 at 16:45, PossilYM said: Bottom line is, the old Rangers are deed Meet the new Rangers, same as the old Rangers. Meet the Old Firm, same as the old Old Firm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 45 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: Looks like a League Cup game under Deila. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Estragon said: Looks like a League Cup game under Deila. *League game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Spaceman Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 06/04/2024 at 16:45, PossilYM said: Bottom line is, the old Rangers are deed sadly bottom line is both clubs are business partners in jointly owning the trademark on all variations of the "Old Firm" brand still to this day. As it essentially makes them more money to feed of the ignorance of the majority of their fans and play up to the divides it creates rather than move away from it completely. Celtic fans that trot out the OF died patter are just perpetuating it as we need to realise both sets of fans have a role to play in removing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Oscar P Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 04/04/2024 at 20:43, Theyellowbox said: Was this not in some way linked to McReddie (Eddie?) Being transfered to Chelsea a season or two before? I'm sure as part of the deal (signed from east stirling), Chelsea had agreed to play shire at firs Park (they honoured that part), but there was to be a return game in London, which Chelsea didn't honour. Sure East Stirling cheekily demanded Chelsea play them at Stamford Bridge a few years back! Wonder if somehow this game was either part of that tour or even a similar agreement for another player. My friend was at the match and still has the programme 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 22/03/2024 at 12:38, Arch Stanton said: 36 years ago, the last Renfrewshire derby to be played in the top division. Probably will be the last ever! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 The first 100k+ attendance for a Scottish Cup final. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 "Ach, anither couple o' sweeps and it'll be good enough for Rangers to play on... " 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Came across this clip earlier today so thought I’d share it. The main Scottish connection is Joe Watson who was born in Fife in 1952 and attended Kirkland HS. He was signed by Nottingham Forest in 1968 and moved to Dundee United in 1970, making 15 first team appearances then Forfar Athletic in 1972 where he played 35 times scoring 4 goals in 1972/73. In 1973 he emigrated to Australia signing for Hakoah, later renamed Sydney City in the old NSL. He was with them until 1986 helping them win the NSL title 4 times (1977, 1980, 1981, 1982). He had one further season in the NSL with APIA Leichhardt before a few seasons with various clubs in NSW Divisions 1 and 2 followed by coaching 9 different clubs in NSW until 2000. He was the 1983 NSL Player of the Year. He played 41 times for Australia although only 17 full internationals where he scored 2 goals. The video clip shows him scoring Australia’s first and his first international goal away to Singapore in the 1983 Merlion Cup Final. Joe played against Scotland at Hampden in 1985 in the WC Playoff. He was made captain in his farewell Socceroos appearance against Czechoslovakia in 1986 being substituted after 5 mins by Ange Postecoglou. Joe sadly passed away in September 2000 having been diagnosed with liver cancer. Other Scottish born players in the clip are Jim Cant who played for Peebles Rovers and was at Hearts from 1970 to 1977 making most of his first team appearances in 1973/74. He signed for Canberra City in 1977, he also played for Marconi and from 1981-1985 with Joe Watson at Sydney City. The other is Ken Murphy from Dundee. He was with Dundee United and Forfar Athletic but doesn’t appear to have made any first team appearances for either. He also played for Downfield. He played mainly for South Melbourne in the NSL with one season at Footscray JUST. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDee1893 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 33 minutes ago, Eednud said: Came across this clip earlier today so thought I’d share it. The main Scottish connection is Joe Watson who was born in Fife in 1952 and attended Kirkland HS. He was signed by Nottingham Forest in 1968 and moved to Dundee United in 1970, making 15 first team appearances then Forfar Athletic in 1972 where he played 35 times scoring 4 goals in 1972/73. In 1973 he emigrated to Australia signing for Hakoah, later renamed Sydney City in the old NSL. He was with them until 1986 helping them win the NSL title 4 times (1977, 1980, 1981, 1982). He had one further season in the NSL with APIA Leichhardt before a few seasons with various clubs in NSW Divisions 1 and 2 followed by coaching 9 different clubs in NSW until 2000. He was the 1983 NSL Player of the Year. He played 41 times for Australia although only 17 full internationals where he scored 2 goals. The video clip shows him scoring Australia’s first and his first international goal away to Singapore in the 1983 Merlion Cup Final. Joe played against Scotland at Hampden in 1985 in the WC Playoff. He was made captain in his farewell Socceroos appearance against Czechoslovakia in 1986 being substituted after 5 mins by Ange Postecoglou. Joe sadly passed away in September 2000 having been diagnosed with liver cancer. Other Scottish born players in the clip are Jim Cant who played for Peebles Rovers and was at Hearts from 1970 to 1977 making most of his first team appearances in 1973/74. He signed for Canberra City in 1977, he also played for Marconi and from 1981-1985 with Joe Watson at Sydney City. The other is Ken Murphy from Dundee. He was with Dundee United and Forfar Athletic but doesn’t appear to have made any first team appearances for either. He also played for Downfield. He played mainly for South Melbourne in the NSL with one season at Footscray JUST. Attached is a photo of Dundee born Jimmy Rooney who started off at Lochee Harp Juniors. After a brief spell at Montrose he emigrated to Australia where he was capped 57 times. I remember seeing him play in the 1974 World Cup against West Germany 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, ScottyDee1893 said: Attached is a photo of Dundee born Jimmy Rooney who started off at Lochee Harp Juniors. After a brief spell at Montrose he emigrated to Australia where he was capped 57 times. I remember seeing him play in the 1974 World Cup against West Germany He also played in the games against Chile and East Germany. This is from the programme for WC qualifier v South Korea in 1977. Australia won 2-1 but failed to qualify, drawing in Seoul losing home and away to Kuwait and qualifier Iran. Jack Reilly didn’t play in any of the qualifiers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 20 minutes ago, Eednud said: He also played in the games against Chile and East Germany. This is from the programme for WC qualifier v South Korea in 1977. Australia won 2-1 but failed to qualify, drawing in Seoul losing home and away to Kuwait and qualifier Iran. Jack Reilly didn’t play in any of the qualifiers. Just love how these international players "pen pictures" all end with Occupation - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, Caledonian1 said: Just love how these international players "pen pictures" all end with Occupation - There was also a tailor, a coal miner, student, school teacher, upholsterer, survey draughtsman, mail officer and more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Arbroath’s only Scottish Cup Semi Final appearance was on 12 April 1947 at Dens Park where 22,000 saw them lose 0-2 against Aberdeen. A week later the Dons beat Hibs 2-1 in the Final. https://www.arbroatharchive.co.uk/matchdetails.php?id=248 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eednud Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Third Lanark won the Scottish Cup for the second and last time on this day in 1905. They had won the League the season before. They defeated the original Rangers 3-1 in a replay (att: 30,000) after drawing 0-0 (att: 54,000) a week earlier. On the same day at the old Crystal Palace Aston Villa won the FA Cup for the fourth time defeating Newcastle United 2-0 (att: 101,117). Villa didn’t have any Scottish players but their manager/secretary was Glasgow born George Ramsay who played for them from 1876-1882 and managed them from 1886-1926. Under him Villa won the FA Cup 6 times and were losing finalists twice.. They also won the League six times and finished runners-up six times with a league and cup double in 1896/97. Newcastle United also had a Scottish manager, Edinburgh born Frank Watt plus six Scottish players in the Cup Final, Jimmy Lawrence (GK), Andy McCombie (RB), Alex Gardner (RH), Andy Aitken (CH), Peter McWilliam (LH) and James Howie (IR). Have just assumed the positions they played from the line-up in Wikipedia. Watt was manager/secretary from 1995-1930 winning the FA Cup twice and the League four times. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollstar Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I'd say the lower picture there, of the English cup final, is an unusually good action shot for 1905, it's easy to imagine being there. I mean compare it with the picture of the Third Lanark team, which isn't even an action shot but it looks like it could have been taken in 1880. But what really shows that the past is a foreign country, is the fact that the Newcastle keeper is wearing the same strip as his team mates. Until right now I would never have guessed that that lasted into the 20th century, but googling reveals that it was only his cap which showed that he was the keeper. I am astounded! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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