diegomarahenry Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/charlie-albinson/profil/spieler/297913 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALOREBURNE Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: We aren’t signing Kirk Broadfoot. It was someone on the wind up. Scored for us tonight against East Fife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Is McAllister anywhere to be seen? Or missing again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 He’s not listed on team sheet but McCarragher has just came on along with Faal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Is McAllister anywhere to be seen? Or missing again. Nope. Him and Baird seem to be missing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 How you can form a judgment on any trialist on the basis of a bounce game against Stranraer is beyond me. Absolute desperation stuff to be chucking in guys we know nothing about in pre season friendlies. Would be different if we were talking about a player that is some kind of known quantity who is maybe coming back from long term injury and we want to assess their fitness. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D'Jaffo Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 How you can form a judgment on any trialist on the basis of a bounce game against Stranraer is beyond me. Absolute desperation stuff to be chucking in guys we know nothing about in pre season friendlies. Would be different if we were talking about a player that is some kind of known quantity who is maybe coming back from long term injury and we want to assess their fitness.When else are we supposed to play guys we know nothing about? That’s literally partly what friendlies are for. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 nill faal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, HMIP said: How you can form a judgment on any trialist on the basis of a bounce game against Stranraer is beyond me. Absolute desperation stuff to be chucking in guys we know nothing about in pre season friendlies. Would be different if we were talking about a player that is some kind of known quantity who is maybe coming back from long term injury and we want to assess their fitness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC 1910 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, HMIP said: How you can form a judgment on any trialist on the basis of a bounce game against Stranraer is beyond me. Absolute desperation stuff to be chucking in guys we know nothing about in pre season friendlies. Would be different if we were talking about a player that is some kind of known quantity who is maybe coming back from long term injury and we want to assess their fitness. Where does one form a judgement on a trialist? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, HMIP said: How you can form a judgment on any trialist on the basis of a bounce game against Stranraer is beyond me. Absolute desperation stuff to be chucking in guys we know nothing about in pre season friendlies. Would be different if we were talking about a player that is some kind of known quantity who is maybe coming back from long term injury and we want to assess their fitness. Lol what? That is literally the whole point of pre season friendlies. To get players fitness and have a look at potential players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, D'Jaffo said: When else are we supposed to play guys we know nothing about? That’s literally partly what friendlies are for. Nonsense. Friendlies are for building match fitness and little else. The idea that we might sign a player on the basis of a few decent touches in s bounce game against a League 2 side is a quite ridiculous recruitment strategy. Assessing a genuinely unknown quantities such as a Glynn Hurst type should be done in the basis of scouting in competitive matches or via trusted 3rd parties. Otherwise you would expect the manager to have some knowledge of the market he is shopping in. This approach is basically just throwing darts while blindfold and hoping to hit something in the general vicinity of the dartboard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, HMIP said: Nonsense. Friendlies are for building match fitness and little else. The idea that we might sign a player on the basis of a few decent touches in s bounce game against a League 2 side is a quite ridiculous recruitment strategy. Assessing a genuinely unknown quantities such as a Glynn Hurst type should be done in the basis of scouting in competitive matches or via trusted 3rd parties. Otherwise you would expect the manager to have some knowledge of the market he is shopping in. This approach is basically just throwing darts while blindfold and hoping to hit something in the general vicinity of the dartboard. No issue with it, plenty players you can look at that do ok in England but can't cut it here, how do you account for that with scouting? You may think someone would work but on seeing them with their prospective teammates it's a bad mix. Edited June 29, 2021 by itzdrk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, ayrunitedfw said: Lol what? That is literally the whole point of pre season friendlies. To get players fitness and have a look at potential players. Total rubbish. How many players have we signed on this basis in the last decade? Jamie Adams is the only one I can think of who genuinely played as a trialist and played his way to a contract. And as per my original post, he was known to McCall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, itzdrk said: No issue with it, plenty players you can look at that do ok in England but can't cut it here, how do you account for that with scouting? You may think someone would work but on seeing them with their prospective teammates it's a bad mix. There’s a world of difference between assessing players in competitive games versus bounce games. Tonight will tell us precisely nothing about what, if anything, these players have to offer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, HMIP said: There’s a world of difference between assessing players in competitive games versus bounce games. Tonight will tell us precisely nothing about what, if anything, these players have to offer. But you can't play trialists in competitive games in the cup or the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, AUFC 1910 said: Where does one form a judgement on a trialist? Competitive matches. Obviously, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Nonsense. Friendlies are for building match fitness and little else. The idea that we might sign a player on the basis of a few decent touches in s bounce game against a League 2 side is a quite ridiculous recruitment strategy. Assessing a genuinely unknown quantities such as a Glynn Hurst type should be done in the basis of scouting in competitive matches or via trusted 3rd parties. Otherwise you would expect the manager to have some knowledge of the market he is shopping in. This approach is basically just throwing darts while blindfold and hoping to hit something in the general vicinity of the dartboard. I'd rather we tried these guys out in these friendly matches how else are you meant to see how they gel and what their attitude is like, you can't tell that from a scouting report and any way it's not like we have a multitude of strikers on the books everyone knows if McKenzie and Moffat are our first choice we are in deep trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, HMIP said: There’s a world of difference between assessing players in competitive games versus bounce games. Tonight will tell us precisely nothing about what, if anything, these players have to offer. Wtf you on? We have played many trialists and gone on to sign many based on how they play in friendly games. also a bounce game is mid season behind closed doors designed to build fitness, friendly games are specifically for seeing talent you are interested in signing, blowing off cobwebs from a gap in playing and assessing who will be first team player in a preferred way of playing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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