Rb123 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Not sure if I get the clamour over Bowyer, just pipped QP to the title and played some very average football with Dundee at times making hard work of things. Not sure his style of football would be much different to Bullen and don't think he'd receive big enough backing that he'd be looking for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Kenny Miller anyone? -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, ryanayr1987 said: He is mourning after losing his BFF, he is also not talking to the supporters for the harrowing abuse the was BGM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrutd1910 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 29 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: Kenny Miller anyone? Ferk off no chance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, Rb123 said: Not sure if I get the clamour over Bowyer, just pipped QP to the title and played some very average football with Dundee at times making hard work of things. His job was to win the league. Winning the league is what he did. That it wasn't glamorous is potentially a positive. Of course Hopkin also won the league, but the general consensus appears to be that this was quite literally fraud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 45 minutes ago, Rb123 said: Not sure if I get the clamour over Bowyer, just pipped Ayr United to the title and played some very average football with Dundee at times making hard work of things. Not sure his style of football would be much different to Bullen and don't think he'd receive big enough backing that he'd be looking for. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, Thumper said: His job was to win the league. Winning the league is what he did. That it wasn't glamorous is potentially a positive. Of course Hopkin also won the league, but the general consensus appears to be that this was quite literally fraud Hopkin didn’t even win it. Bowyer won the league with a squad that largely wasn’t his own and ground out results in big matches. He also united a fan base and from what Dundee fans have said was an excellent man manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coollestersmoothe Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, Thumper said: His job was to win the league. Winning the league is what he did. That it wasn't glamorous is potentially a positive. Bullens job was to keep us in the league. He did that. Then finished 2nd the following season. It wasn’t glamorous. Almost everybody here hated it and wanted him out - even before the disaster of this season unfolded. I’d rather not have any more turgid fitba and have a product that justifies the 3hr round trip and £20 ticket. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Coollestersmoothe said: Bullens job was to keep us in the league. He did that. Then finished 2nd the following season. It wasn’t glamorous. Almost everybody here hated it and wanted him out - even before the disaster of this season unfolded. I’d rather not have any more turgid fitba and have a product that justifies the 3hr round trip and £20 ticket. I didn't hate finishing 2nd. However, I hated the playoffs. They were disgustingly bad and should have been a sacking offence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, Coollestersmoothe said: Bullens job was to keep us in the league. He did that. Then finished 2nd the following season. It wasn’t glamorous. Almost everybody here hated it and wanted him out - even before the disaster of this season unfolded. I’d rather not have any more turgid fitba and have a product that justifies the 3hr round trip and £20 ticket. The calls for Bullen to go after finishing second were unjustified and that’s the problem of those on here. I’d far rather win ugly than do whatever the f**k it is we’ve been doing this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzlemanizzle Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, shizzlemanizzle said: No, no, no. You can’t greenie a post congratulating you……. unless you just won the fucking internet! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coollestersmoothe Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: The calls for Bullen to go after finishing second were unjustified and that’s the problem of those on here. I’d far rather win ugly than do whatever the f**k it is we’ve been doing this season. Fair enough. I’m not fussed about how we survive this year tbh. Ugly or not. I should’ve caveated that. My concern is that for next season, when hopefully we’re in a far better position league wise, we’re not stuck with a manager who will serve up the same dross week in week out and told to lump it cos it gets results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Binning Bullen after finishing 2nd would have been nuts, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t developing concerns about how we played during his tenure. Those concerns have really blown up this season to the point that no amount of community engagement could cover up a clear lack of progress on the pitch. I’m afraid there are just too many, including the VoR who chose not to see because he was such a likeable guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: The calls for Bullen to go after finishing second were unjustified and that’s the problem of those on here. I’d far rather win ugly than do whatever the f**k it is we’ve been doing this season. The last third of last season was turgid to watch, not even including the playoffs. Obviously you can't fire someone for finishing 2nd,and it was less a case of wanting him punted as seeing the writing on the wall and how this season would play out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: The calls for Bullen to go after finishing second were unjustified and that’s the problem of those on here. I’d far rather win ugly than do whatever the f**k it is we’ve been doing this season. I wouldn’t have said unjustified, and it was only after the partick debacle happened most wanted him gone. The football he played after we lost chalmers was absolutely shite and that started around the end of November/early December that started. The only reason second was possible was because we had an ace up our sleeve with dipo and we fluked a last minute winner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 We were 3 minutes and a disallowed goal from ICT from finishing 5th and not even getting the playoffs, Dipos goals papered over the cracks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Superhursy7 said: We were 3 minutes and a disallowed goal from ICT from finishing 5th and not even getting the playoffs, Dipos goals papered over the cracks. Lee Bullen does not deal in "what if's". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 21 minutes ago, ryanayr1987 said: I wouldn’t have said unjustified, and it was only after the partick debacle happened most wanted him gone. The football he played after we lost chalmers was absolutely shite and that started around the end of November/early December that started. The only reason second was possible was because we had an ace up our sleeve with dipo and we fluked a last minute winner Of course they were unjustified, the guy took over a team battling relegation and then finished second the next season - despite having a target of somewhere around mid table. 1 minute ago, Superhursy7 said: We were 3 minutes and a disallowed goal from ICT from finishing 5th and not even getting the playoffs, Dipos goals papered over the cracks. Absolutely - tiny margins but ultimately a mid table finish was what was expected last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Coollestersmoothe said: Bullens job was to keep us in the league. He did that. Then finished 2nd the following season. It wasn’t glamorous. Almost everybody here hated it and wanted him out - even before the disaster of this season unfolded. I soured on Bullen earlier than most but I was still thrilled with second and was happy for him to stay in the job even after Hubgate. I think it's quite difficult to argue that "almost everybody... wanted him out" during the summer: that wasn't even a consensus opinion on here at the time, and very clearly it wasn't impacting attendances as the season kicked off. What ultimately did for Bullen wasn't the shite football but the shite football coupled with being in the relegation zone. The football under Reid was usually incredibly monotonous stuff but he shitfested his way to two promotions and over half a dozen victories against top flight teams. Ultimately he didn't get emptied for the football (though I'm apparently the only person who left Hampden that day not thinking he should be sacked) but because he got relegated. If you stay up you can always have another go next year. If you get relegated then there might not be a next year. 1 hour ago, Coollestersmoothe said: I’d rather not have any more turgid fitba and have a product that justifies the 3hr round trip and £20 ticket. The choice is not between unglamorous but effective versus entertaining but risky. The choice is between potentially getting a guy who is unglamorous but effective, or ending up with a clown like John Hughes who will primarily provide entertainment for fans of other teams. If it somehow miraculously comes down to Bowyer vs McCall, I'd want McCall. But it isn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Meanwhile in apparently not an alternative universe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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