jagfox Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I take it with the new owner, admin is off tomorrow? ...assuming the sale has gone through.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 United having Irish roots is only contentious if you are the sort of idiot who has a problem with that yourself. The city of Dundee was only second to Liverpool in the proportion of Irish born residents we had by the turn of the last century. Most folk in Dundee who have anything negative to say about it would probably pretty upset to find out where their great granny/ grandad was from. If it is "contentious" in modern day Scotland that is down to a particular type of person with particular views and i don't see why we should hide or not talk about it to avoid upsetting them. I'm not saying we have to go down the Celtic route of getting involved in anything that has happened in the last century but the club and the city should be fully aware and proud of who we came from. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: United having Irish roots is only contentious if you are the sort of idiot who has a problem with that yourself. The city of Dundee was only second to Liverpool in the proportion of Irish born residents we had by the turn of the last century. Most folk in Dundee who have anything negative to say about it would probably pretty upset to find out where their great granny/ grandad was from. If it is "contentious" in modern day Scotland that is down to a particular type of person with particular views and i don't see why we should hide or not talk about it to avoid upsetting them. I'm not saying we have to go down the Celtic route of getting involved in anything that has happened in the last century but the club and the city should be fully aware and proud of who we came from. F*ck off. I’ve supported United for over 50 years without having to consider their Irish roots. It’s completely irrelevant and there is no need to refer to it at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It's hardly 'irrelevant' if it is a fact. How far back in history are we allowed to go? It doesn't mean we have to trumpet about it, and I'd always rather look forward, while keeping in mind achievements, failures and events of the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 53 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: United having Irish roots is only contentious if you are the sort of idiot who has a problem with that yourself. The city of Dundee was only second to Liverpool in the proportion of Irish born residents we had by the turn of the last century. Most folk in Dundee who have anything negative to say about it would probably pretty upset to find out where their great granny/ grandad was from. If it is "contentious" in modern day Scotland that is down to a particular type of person with particular views and i don't see why we should hide or not talk about it to avoid upsetting them. I'm not saying we have to go down the Celtic route of getting involved in anything that has happened in the last century but the club and the city should be fully aware and proud of who we came from. Entirely this. My love of United has and will never be framed in the context of the clubs roots and I doubt there's many out there that even consider this. The club should definitely nod to the origins and history but I don't think it needs to be any more than that. Nae need for plastic-paddyism but recognition of where its came from is appropriate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 As an Irish Catholic from Glasgow, I can safely say one of the reasons I support United is to get away from all that pish 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: It's hardly 'irrelevant' if it is a fact. How far back in history are we allowed to go? It doesn't mean we have to trumpet about it, and I'd always rather look forward, while keeping in mind achievements, failures and events of the past. 1979. Danger insists anything before that doesn’t count. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: We are sitting bottom of the league and I’m an arsehole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: 1979. Danger insists anything before that doesn’t count. You silly c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: F*ck off. I’ve supported United for over 50 years without having to consider their Irish roots. It’s completely irrelevant and there is no need to refer to it at all. Its quite alright for you to give it no consideration and to think it's completely irrelevant. If you have a problem with other people speaking about, wish to hide it or are embarrassed by it that's your problem. I'm sorry our club and city's multi-cultural past and present is difficult for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Its quite alright for you to give it no consideration and to think it's completely irrelevant. If you have a problem with other people speaking about, wish to hide it or are embarrassed by it that's your problem. I'm sorry our club and city's multi-cultural past and present is difficult for you. That’s some stretch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) It dosent matter what any of us thinks. We might be Irish originally or whatever but were still shite Edited December 20, 2018 by mishtergrolsch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That’s some stretch. Possibly. I have been drinking and am half a glass of red away from sticking on the wolftones album. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Looks like he’s referring to the city rather than the club. I don’t really want anyone raising the ‘Irish roots’ issue, particularly the new owner. Hopefully someone will explain that this can be an emotive issue and potentially divisive issue for those who choose to make it so. It is part of your history though. And no bad thing surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: As an Irish Catholic from Glasgow, I can safely say one of the reasons I support United is to get away from all that pish Fair enough, Mark, I don't like what I assume to be 'that pish' either: but why mention 'Catholic'? United don't have a Catholic background. They do have origins in the Irish community, the forebears of whom settled in Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Daydream said: It is part of your history though. And no bad thing surely? I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m saying it’s irrelevant. The context of this discussion is remarks made by a guy who has just but a football club in a country he seems to have little knowledge of and the for whom the whole ‘Irish roots’ issue is lost upon. I would far prefer he concentrated on matters more important to the club than this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 19/12/2018 at 20:44, Mark Connolly said: With our new billionaire owner, I think we have set our targets a bit higher. Rodrigo Alves is due in St Andrews tomorrow FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Fair enough, Mark, I don't like what I assume to be 'that pish' either: but why mention 'Catholic'? United don't have a Catholic background. They do have origins in the Irish community, the forebears of whom settled in Dundee. This is either a wind up or shows an incredible level of ignorance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This is either a wind up or shows an incredible level of ignorance. No wind up, Granny. Perhaps you can enlighten me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Dundee Hibernian said: No wind up, Granny. Perhaps you can enlighten me? Dundee United were originally Dundee Hibernian (a fact I thought you might know given your username) and were formed by Irish Catholic immigrants. In the earliest days supported by largely Irish/Catholic supporters. The name change was, in part, to attract a support beyond that initial base. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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